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standalone streaming service. >> hbo and cnn are both earned by time warner. the company doesn't release a number of subscribers hbo has in the u.s., but analysts estimate around 30 million subscribe via cable and now close to one million subscribe online. combined, that's still a smaller number than netflix's 40-plus million in the u.s. making the competition stiffer, hbo now cost twice as much. >> how do you justify that more expensive cost? >> we think it's a premium product. we have four hollywood movie studios. we have 3,000 hours of live programming. we think that's more than a fair price. it's a movie ticket and a bucket of popcorn. >> we're at the point where hbo is a streaming service, an on demand service that happens to have a linear television network? >> no. as we say, it's multi-lateral. people are enjoying the network in a myriad of different ways. we just want to give them the flexibility to do so however they want, whenever they want.
>> a fantasy that cries out for something very old fashioned, curation. it's supposed to be a signal to subscribers in 2015 just as it was in 1995, that you're going to enjoy this hour of tv, whether you're streaming it or watching it through your tv box. >> good story telling is still dominant. >> it's a very exciting time for people who make and on great content. we have more talent lined up at our door who want to work with us than ever before. and i think it's great, great content. >> now, in the coming weeks, we'll take you to the headquarters of youtube, buzz feed, and the virtual reality company occulus. you can actually stream those stories right now at cnnmoney.com/media. that's all for this televised edition of "reliable sources." do sign up for our news letter, delivered to your inbox every
how well did trump do? >> it was the biggest ratings since 2012. it was 50% higher than on the premier of the show this season with hillary clinton. >> it really stood out last night. >> what do you make of those numbers? trump expected to get high ratings. will they be happy with this? >> i think they'll be happy. i've been using hugish. not super huge. it's as big as you can do. saturday night isn't watched on tv any way. >> a lot of people watch on demand instead of live. these ratings are above average. >> i'm sure the advertisers are thrilled. what do you make of that. >> it didn't hit the expectation. people wanted fireworks on the