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through his prior testimony to determine what was accurate, wasn't accurate. we want to drill down into just what lawyers, what individuals were aware that the statements he was making to congress were false, whether any other indications that that got back or was blessed in anyway by the president. but we want to walk through each of the russia-related allegations with him in great detail. and again, our goal will be to find the truth, to find corroboration, if it exists. so that we can make a full report to the american people. >> congressman, i want to read you something that another congressman, matt gaetz a republican, a big arguably biggest president trump supporter in congress. here's what he tweeted to michael cohen last night, yesterday afternoon, hey, michael con, do your wife and father-in-law know about your girlfriends? maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. i wonder if she'll remain
he could get a reduction in sentence, i suppose, jeffrey. but i think, you know, i think roger stone is still looking at that pardon from the president. >> on the corroboration. let's see if the investigation is opened in the fbi during campaign. we don't know what corroboration came out of that. we don't know what phone records, e-mail records, intercepts. we just don't know. we won't know until mueller comes out. so we may get an answer to this it may be unanswered. >> we do know none of those three people named there are in the honesty hall of fame. i will say, there are no busts. >> no medals. >> no, thank you all very much. we will have much more on cnn's breaking news coverage next. stick around. biopharmaceutical researchers.
there, which i'm sure we will hear much more publicly later. who are the characters we are hearing talking about, put the president aside, michael cohen and roger stone. roger stone at least said publicly he has testified under oath the president did not have them so is there corroboration? michael cohen talks about the fact that the call was put through by donald trump's secretary maybe she can corroborate. did she listen in on the call or did she just put the call through? we don't know the answer to that or whether we will be left with more importantly federal investigators will be left with. he said he said by two people who are not the most credible of witnesses. >> jeffrey, let's talk about the legal jeopardy here. i want to read from page 11 here in what michael cohen will
this is the type of corroboration, maggie, you were just talking about you think will be so important today. >> reporter: right, taken in its motelity the mere fact of this testimony is stunning. the many of the granular details are things we have known or at least have been told by other people about this president so far. but what is stuning is that it is all in one place and attached to someone's name in a seting where there is penalty of perjury. to your point about those checks, that goes to a different level than almost anything else in the testimony that we have read. because that speaks to a coverup. >> that speaks to an effort to conceal something. my sources tell me there was no retainer agreement between michael cohen and the trump organization or the president, despite the fact that hit had been described by people around the president. have you these checks that were signed while the president was in office. recall again the president said he didn't know about these
knowledge of those releases of russian stolen documents of the clinton campaign. he also offers some pretty solid corroboration in terms of the hush money payments. if these checks are, in fact, authentic. and i think what you can see also in the written statement is why the office of the special counsel found his testimony credible. now, we haven't heard it yet. but what strikes me as a former prosecutor as credible about it is is that it only goes so far, if it was merely incriminating the president. you would expect him to say i overheard direct conversations of this or the president told me this or i witnessed that. he could have been much more express it than the statements in his written testimony so that does lend it some credibility. but again, what we'll be looking for in our hearing is the corroboration for these accounts. >> and if you see corroboration, he is apparently going to
about it and cohen has the mod modus to tell the truth. in the absence of further corroboration, i don't know where prosecutors go with this. >> again, that is already what i am hearing from people who are associated with the trump legal team this morning. >> that exact point. you have three people, two of whom are saying this didn't happen. one, at least two of them claim they have said this. people around them have said that they said this under oath. so unless there is corroboration, you can't prove it. >> none of those three. >> special counsel did not use this. don't forget, one of them wants a pardon. roger stone. one of them is in a position to give it and michael cohen is going to jail. so the question is. >> what a crew. wow. >> yeah, but the question is, who has more motive to be truthful? cohen has nothing to lose at this point, quite honestly.
present two checks. if you see evidence in corroboration. how does that change how you proceed? we had congresswoman jackie speir on who says she sees impeachable actions in here. >> first of all, we haven't heard the testimony yet. the original testimony included falsehood. so we need to go through what part was accurate. just what part was inaccurate. what went into those false statements and also dig down much deeper in terms of the circumstance around his testimony before our committee. in the written statement, he talks, for example, about his testimony being available to the president's personal lawyers. is that all that he has to offer there? or is there more that we can corroborate in terms of what the president knew about that false testimony? so there are still a lot of questions to be answered. we really have only the highlights in this written testimony. but we have a lot of hard work to do ahead of us. >> as you know, you tweeted