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the only way that receptor is to get on the virus is if it is placed there. so man place there. steve: sure, going to what scott gottlieb just said. you have got dr. fauci out in europe saying, you know, it could be a lab leak. he said it a year ago. and yet over the last year because donald trump was president and a lot of people in his circle said, you know what, it looks like china might have poisoned the world. mike pompeo, former secretary of state said that kind of attitude was so 2020. it was just not p.c. and that's why what's going on right now is so curious. here's the former secretary of state. watch. >> the more we see, the more we know. every sign, every piece of evidence that we have seen to date continues to stack up to suggest that this did, indeed, come, this wuhan virus came from the virology lab there in wuhan. almost no evidence that supports the zoonotic smother that somehow left from a bat to another species. this wasn't the politically

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Morning Joe-20210604-10:52:00

the examination of covid-19's origin. joining us now, the author of that report, contributor to "vanity fair," katherine ebann. >> katherine, i would like to build this up, but i'm one of these guys who says, why don't we just go hamlet in the first hakt. i see this part right here. explain this to us. a december 2020 state department meeting, one official admonished his colleagues not to ask questions about the wuhan virology institute, something known as gain of function, why, you ask? she tells us. as it would call attention to the u.s. government's support for that research. tell us what that means. >> so let me just first say, this is one of the most complicated stories that i have ever reported. and i said it's like ans drawing

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Morning Joe-20210604-10:57:00

which is, go out into these super remote areas, find these bat samples, and bring them back. now, critics of dasak say, you know, you're going out into the remotest areas, finding these samples, bringing them back to these crowded metropolises, like wuhan, which has 11 million people in it, you know, and then you have this fundamental problem. you know why in the dead of winter when most bats are hibernating, in a city where there are no bats, in a market where they're not sold would we have an outbreak with the wuhan institute of virology seven miles away, doing this risky, dangerous research in gain of function research to try to soup up these pathogens. >> so public health experts and officials publicly at least, we had dr. fauci on yesterday, won't commit to the zoonotic transfer or the lab leak. they say it's too early, we're doing research, there's not enough evidence to make a

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Morning Joe-20210604-10:28:00

still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> what addition are they in? >> central. >> they play baseball? >> sure. >> willie. >> who's the first -- >> cardinals? >> the carlson cubs. >> the cubs had kind of a run there for a little bit. >> brewers are right there. >> zip it! still ahead on "morning joe," republicans standing in the way of president biden's agenda isn't the only thing standing in the way. we'll go live to nbc's garrett haake in west virginia who spoke with the senator who many consider the most powerful man on capitol hill, democrat joe manchin. plus, the u.s. economy in sharp focus this morning as we await the may jobs report last month's report a fluke or the first sign of a slide? plus, the inside story of how toxic politics and hidden agendas hindered u.s. efforts to exam the origin of the coronavirus. you're watching.

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Morning Joe-20210604-11:01:00

staggering. in a lot of ways, mentally, it's a lot easier and more relaxing to sit around and think about a zoonotic origin. >> this has become such a toxic political issue with the right slamming on it. we've already been proved and we know we were talking earlier how the former president trump will be back holding a rally this weekend and his aides have said he's going to be talking about this and blaming china for it. the biden administration in the next few days say they have found new intelligence that have caused them to reopen the investigation. he's pressing agencies over the next 90 days or so to figure out and learn as much as they can. what's your sense of what they're looking about and what they can find? >> a couple of interesting points on that. one of the big sort of leads or pieces of information about sick researchers at the wuhan institute of virology, and researchers who were working on gain of function issues, part of that came from a foreign service

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Morning Joe-20210604-11:03:00

has said, and has said at the world health assembly meeting a week and a half ago, the investigation inside china is over. we are not cooperating anymore. we're not opening up lab notebooks, we're not giving you access to our raw data. so then the question becomes, how do we ever answer this question? and i think the idea is that there is information that we have in our own possession that allies, foreign allies may have their own possession, you know, as well as sort of the statistical capabilities of the u.s. government. >> and we should also say, in a whole year, we have not found any host animal. so if the chinese had some ed of zoonotic transmission, they would have -- >> they would have loved to put that forth. >> let me tell you, the chinese government has launched the biggest bat hunt in history to try to find this zoonotic origin

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Morning Joe-20210603-11:32:00

and that's what everyone wants right now. >> the conventional wisdom for so long, as you know, that it was zu zoonotic, that there were types of a bat in the wet market, there were talk of penguins in the wet market. is there more evidence for that theory than there is the lab leak? in other words, aren't they both equally possible? >> obviously, when you say "possible," anything is possible. and that's the reason why i say you need to keep an open mind. one of the things that people need to understand is that you need to keep looking for that link of the jump naturally from an animal to a human. i think one of the things that happened early on is that the scientists, you know, some people don't want to admit it, but the scientists in china, many of them are really very good scientists. i think epidemiology, one of the things that they did wrong is that they cleaned out the market as soon as there was this outrage for fear that it would

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Stephanie Ruhle Reports-20210602-13:26:00

forward. if there is a high likelihood that this came out of a laboratory, it will affect how we provide better security with bsl labs and labs doing this kind of research and the lab in wuhan was being done in a lower security lab and we are, and if there is a probability that this came out of a lab we have to know what's going on inside these laboratories. if we assess that this was a zoonottic source and we have the spill over effects from nature and getting the probability that this came out of a lab will be important going forward and at the end of the day we won't have a definitive answer and if we have a zoonotic source or an assessment we will have a

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The Story With Martha MacCallum-20210602-19:26:00

some are plausible. even the lab leak hypothesis, carl fagan had this statement that extraordinarily claims require extraordinary evidence. this pandemic has killed -- >> martha: okay. i want to dig into this a little bit. this is why people have raised these questions. you know, at this points, there's still no evidence that it came from a zoonotic source. it came from a natural source has not been proven at this point. were you aware that there were three scientists that were ill with covid-like symptoms in november of 2019 at the wuhan lab? >> i was aware that there might have been some individuals at the lab that were ill. i didn't know the number was three. >> martha: when you heard that, why didn't that cause you to say, you know, we really need to find out exactly what these people had in november of 2019 and why they visited the

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