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in second. and it's interesting. it's either jon huntsman or ron paul. ron paul comes in second, it doesn't do a thing. because ron paul will stay at this level. he has no growth potential. or limited growth potential. if jon huntsman comes in second, he might have a bounce, except the next state is south carolina, where the voter base is not inclined to be a favorable one for jon huntsman. and the only way jon huntsman competes financially is can he get his family and himself to put the money in? >> here's the interesting thing. and i actually consider this a great deal of encouragement. i like to talk a lot about the issues of trade reform. issues really with a nonfunctioning flow of money. that the flow of money is leaving america. it's not coming into america. that's the reason. everything else is a symptom of that. >> no question. >> it's inspiring to me to know that the two presidential candidates in the republican

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