often they're criminals. the police like the idea of microstamping. yes, you can trace it back to the straw person who bought it, but that gets them a little closer to finding the criminal -- >> if they're lucky. >> craig, you talk about living in safety in a world filled with guns. some of those stats on the number of guns in america is quite appalling to me. but guns don't make us safer. if you have a gun in the home it's 43 times more likely to kill a family member than intruder. there are more children killed by guns in the last 25 years than the number of soldiers killed in all wars in the last 50 years. there have been many years in which there are more kids killed in america by handguns than cops killed. they maybe us feel safer. but they do not make us safer. the proliferation of guns in america does not make us safer. so you have the constitution sitting there, but that's sort of the thing that gun rights lovers always hold dear. can you defend the right to have guns without relying on the second amendment? without going to the second amendment, can you answer the