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they took the shot. another official tells cnn emwazi was in a vehicle near raqqa. emwazi appeared in a series of isis beheading videos, documenting the murders of several murder, american and britain japanese hostages, he was seen taunting u.s. and british leaders. >> we'll continue to strike the necks of our people were this morning, the uk government saying britain was working hand in glove with america over the jihadi john drone strike. >> this was an act of self-defense, the right thing to do. >> reporter: emwazi, in in his mid-20s. >> if this strike was successful and we still await confirmation of that, it will be a strike at the heart of isil. >> reporter: one of the things that he also said was that this was a long-term operation of the two intelligence services and also said this is a clear message to isis as well that the reach of the u.s. and britain is long and that they will not forget the fate of their citizens. >> all right, fred, thank you for that. meanwhile, day two of operation free sinjar. thousands of kurdish forces storming the city with u.s. and coalition warplanes, providing cover from above. a defining moment in the war on terror. let's get the latest on the offensive from cnn's senior international correspondent nick paton walsh, live in sinjar. >> reporter: in the distance behind me you can see a grain silo which was, we're told, one of isis's main buildings in sinjar. now it's in the hands of the kurds. there's been a substantial change in sinjar since this morning. we saw earlier on today large numbers of peshmerga troops moving in on foot, walking down the roads, converging in the city center. then intense clashes, they careerly ran across isis and certain pockets there. those clashes continued. we eventually joined the peshmerga down on the street level, down there you can see the intense damage inflicted on that city, both by coalition air strikes but isis suicide bombers as well. so little left to go back to for the yazidi population. so many booby traps left at the side of the road. we heard from a volunteer, jason, working as a medic and seeing kurds die right in front of him during this brutal fight, there are over a dozen he'd seen just in the previous few hours. it's frankly a death trap at this stage. the guns have fallen silent behind me now. there may still be isis inside the city. there may be booby traps still. the question is how swift has the victory been, and when can the yazidis move back to their town of sinjar. >> we want to bring in lieutenant general mark hertling. good morning, general. great to see you this morning. let's talk about this air strike that possibly got jihadi john which we know well from the sinister beheading videos. what would the significant be? >> the significance is there's increasing amounts of intelligence that allows forces to, toette hill. that's the most important thing in my mine. you're talking about a city that has been held by isis for over a year now. and they have had control of that city. we've had very little intelligence inside the city. we are increasingly able to get that based on partnering and engagements with not only syrian arabs but also the kurdish peshmerga in that area. the targeting piece of this, the ability to actually strike something with a level of confidence, that's a tough process to go through. i've run targeting cells in the past. when you get that level of confidence and intelligence on a target in a city that you don't have control of, it's pretty important. >> but, general, in terms of loss to isis of jihadi john, this would be a symbolic victory. everyone wants to get the man behind these sickening videos. can't isis just find another person to fulfill that role? >> they certainly can, alisyn but the key point is, it tells isis we have the ability to target them wherever they are. that's important. yes, it's important to get the guy who was on the video, who's a brutal murderer and seems to be a little bit sadistic from all reports but it is also important to let them know you're not free to move around. we're seeing increasing evidence of that throughout the campaign. as more intelligence comes in, as we get the feet up under us, we can go anywhere we want and strike these targets. this will make the other people in raqqa that are defending isis there a little bit concerned about their safety and it will cause them to change their pattern of life. >> general, as we speak there's a battle under way for sinjar. you've spent a lot of time there. i want you to walk us through what's happening. here's the map and this is -- the red is what's under isis control. you see sinjar. the yellow is isis support zone, the orange is isis attack zone. tell us what you see with these tentacles. >> yes, that's a great map, alisyn. it shows you that isis has been occupying areas is lock a logistics supply line to mos. if you draw a direct line of isis to raqqa, it will go through sinjar and telafar. that's how they reinforce mosul with fighters and supplies. in the other areas, what you're talking about is the flow down the euphrates and tigris rivers. that's where the main cities are. that's where you have people living because they use the waters off those two rivers to cultivate their crops and to basically it's the life spring of the country. when you're talking about controlling the cities along those rivers, you also control a lot of other things. that's what we're attempting to break up with our partners in the air. >> general, we do have a graphic of highway 41 which you've just -- 47 which you've just talked about. it goes from raqqa to mosul. it also leads all the way down to baghdad. it's interesting that it's in bright red because it is a main artery. you see all of the different vital cities. that's what they're fighting for. >> you have highway 47 going across the north, alisyn. that's in and out of kurdish-held territory as part of the kurdish regional government. the road going north and south out of baghdad, everyone will recognize the names of the town. that's highway 1 going from baghdad to mosul. it will go through the towns of bayji, hewiji. that highway leads to kirkuk. we're talking iraqi security forces. the iraqi security forces have been fighting in towns like bayji and ramadi, in hawija, in kirkuk. they are trying to reach mosul, the second largest city. you have the kurdish peshmerga fighters fighting along highway 47. if you can cut those two supply lines and eliminate the ability of isis to move back and forth across the area, you're executing a very well thought out campaign plan. what we've seen in the past, as the iraqi security forces have grown, they've been able to hit one place at a time. what's been significant over the last couple of days is we've seen a whole lot more action in different areas. >> general mark hertling, thanks so much for explaining this whole region to us. we really appreciate all of your expertise. thanks so much. chris? >> thank you, alisyn. let's turn to the battleground of politics and donald trump is making headlines for going off in iowa, a 95-minute tie ride that even by trump standards left the audiences and analysts stunned. cnn's athena jones is live in des moines. good morning. >> good morning, chris. it was a sight to, hold last night. one of the longest and most eye-rising tirades from trump yet, full of insults against his gop rivals, democratic leaders and the media and more tough talk for isis. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> cursing and mocking chief rival dr. ben carson. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? >> reporter: unleashing his most aggressive attacks yet in what amounted to an hour and a half long ran in the iowa. >> how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap? >> reporter: the billionaire gunning for carson. the two are virtually neck and neck in recent polls here. after the retired neurosurgeon wrote in his autobiography that as a teen he tried to stab a friend only to have it stopped by a belt buckle. >> i have a belt. the belt moves this way. it moves this way. it moves that way. anybody have a knife want to try it on me? believe me, it ain't going to work. >> reporter: trump comparing carson's self-described pathological temper to an incurable disease. >> i don't want a person that's got pathological disease. if you're a child molester, a sick puppy, you're a child molester, there's no cure for that. >> reporter: a theme of attack he used earlier in the night on cnn prompting carly fiorina to jump to carson's defense, writing in a facebook post all the money in the world won't make you as smart as ben carson. during his tirade, trump also attacking hillary clinton. >> she's playing the woman card up. that's all she has. honestly outside of the woman's card she has nothing going, believe me. >> reporter: the one time clear front-runner also claiming to know more about the terrorist group isis than u.s. military generals. saying he would bomb areas controlled by isis that are rich in oil. >> i would just bomb those suckers and that's right, i'd blow up the pipes. blow up the refineries. every single inch. there would be nothing left and i'd take the oil. >> reporter: it was really something to watch. now, in response to trump attacks, a top carson aide says that trump resents carson's rise and is lashing out. it will also be interesting to see how republican primary voters respond. so far they haven't punished trump for any of his wild statements. the question is, is that going to change? chris? >> i don't know that he's called them stupid before either. we'll see how that plays. we'll get response from the carson camp and we'll hear more from mr. trump himself while being tested on cnn last night. we'll get plenty of reaction to what this will mean, his new phase of attack-tics as well. armstrong williams will be here to talk about what he thinks is going on with trump and why he does not think it will work. >> attack-tics. i like that. >> thank you. secret service agent has been arrested after being caught in a child sex sting. lee robert moore turn himself in earlier this week. officials say he thought he was talking online to a 14-year-old girl but it was a delaware state trooper posing as a teenager. the criminal complaint says moore who was assigned to the white house sent naked photos and requested to meet in person to have sex. he is now on administrative leave. university of missouri has a new interim president this morning. michael middleton installed days after the resignation of tim wolfe amidst claims of racism at the school. he had been working on diversity and inclusion efforts for the university. he was one of the first black students to ever graduate from the university's law school. >> more aircraft facing laser attacks overnight. a news chopper for ktla in california targeted several times. a 15-year-old boy arrested and released to his parents in that case. meantime were more incidents in dallas, a southwest flight, two private planes hit. no arrests have been made in those. more than 20 aircraft were struck by lasers wednesday. this is not funny. it is a crime. you will go to jail. i know the 15-year-old kid didn't. >> they're trying to figure out what kind of charges to press. that was my former station in los angeles. everybody is okay. tim lynne was the pilot. this is insanity. why does anybody think this is funny or a good idea? >> luckily now, they're catching the people. >> let's hope they put this to rest. my goodness. donald trump held a remarkable event, complete with a re-enactment and props. wait until you hear what he says about critics of his immigration plan. trump unfiltered ahead on "new day." 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>> they pay local, state. >> don't be naive. do you think that an illegal migrant getting money is going to be paying taxes? sure, some probably do because the employers are insisting on it. there's very little percentage-wise, there's very little, probably 5%, s10%. they're here illegally. they're not paying taxes. i hear them all. what i do, i make things really good. i fix things. and you know, i'm a real fixer of things, not jeb bush. okay? i'm a real fixer. i can really do things. one of the reasons the wall never got built, they couldn't get the environmental impact statement if you can believe it because something was in the way. they couldn't get their environmental impact statement. here's the thing. between e-verify which will take care of a big portion of them, you have to go back. if they can't get a job, they're going back anyway. we don't have to knock on doors. >> on this point about humanity, are you going to be sending in officers, a force of people into people's homes to get them out? >> we'll be giving notice. we'll be saying you have to go back to wherever the country is. it's going to be countries, all different countries. not one country. back to the country. we'll do it in a humane way but between e-verify and other modern systems, a lot of that will happen automatically. and don't forget, we're taking tremendous numbers of jobs from people that were born in this country. you understand that because when you look at the roads, you have 100 million people that potentially want to work and they can't find jobs. >> they don't want to pick grapes, though. >> maybe not. we can solve that with work visas where they come in and work legally, they pay taxes and then they go out. i'm all for that. i think that's true. because i agree with you. they might not want to pick grapes, not their thing. they don't want to do that. that's okay. but we'll have a work visa where they can come in, work, and then at the right time they have to go back out. >> president obama for his part not buying donald trump's immigration plan. in fact he's slamming the republican candidate's proposal going as far as calling it unamerican. >> first of all, i have no idea where mr. trump thinks the money is going to come from. it would cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to execute that. imagine the images on the screen flashed around the world as we were dragging parents away from their children and putting them in detention centers and then systematically sending them out. nobody thinks that that is realistic but more importantly, that's not who we are as americans. >> you see president obama there wearing that sort of smile that says, i've got this. like there's no debate in his mind that that -- that trump's is out of bounds. >> he knows there are people in the republican party that agree that that's not the right way to approach it. there are several other immigration plans that don't go as far as donald trump's do. >> that's the sticky wicket for the gop right now. you want to energize your base. they haven't done that in recent elections in the way they need to to win the white house. what's the cost of that? 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>> let's tune in on that fracos that was going on. let's discussion. cnn political commentator and political anchor at new york one, mr. errol louis and also dr. david chalian. this is unusual. what is the strategy here. >> i think the strategy is to stop losing new cycles or being wleft out of new cycles. that doesn't work for donald trump. he's running as a celebrity candidate. there's nothing wrong with that. what can go wrong with that strategy is if all of a sudden we're talking about marco rubio, ted cruz, actual foreign policy in sort of a realistic approach to the presidency, then all of a sudden donald trump gets shuffled off to the side and that won't work for him. he's been leading in the polls pretty consistently but others are creeping up. i think he knows as well as anybody else, certainly the people on his team know that's not a strategy that you can just sit and watch for 80 days. we have 80 days to go. that's an eternity in politics. he can get passed between now and the iowa caucuses. he clearly doesn't want that to happen. >> it was such a remarkable event that trump had last night, it even included at one moment a re-enactment of what happened to ben carson. let's watch that. >> he took a knife and he went after a friend and he lunged. he lunged that knife into the stomach of his friend but lo and behold, it hit the belt. it hit the belt. and the knife broke. give me a break. give me a break. give me a break. the knife broke. let me tell you, i'm pretty good at this stuff. i have a belt. the belt moves this way, it moves this way, it moves that way. he hit the belt buckle. anybody have a knife, want to try it on me? believe me, it ain't going to work. you're going to be successful. but he took the knife and he went like this and he plunged it into the belt. and amazingly, the belt stayed totally flat and the knife broke. how stupid are the people of iowa? how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap? >> david, i don't even know where to begin. i mean, let's just start with how stupid are the people of iowa and the people of the country. is that his new strategy? >> right. i don't think he's actually calling the people of iowa stupid. how stupid would you be if you believed this story of ben carson. >> you better hope that's how it's taken by the way. >> exactly. that would be dangerous if he started insulting voters' intelligence. that's not a way to win votes, no doubt about that. >> right. >> let's be honest about what we saw, some of the most compelling political theater we've ever seen in our lives, right? let's not forget donald trump is a captivating force and he was in rare form last night. you were talking about the strategy about this, guys. make no mistake about why this happened in iowa. this is where ben carson is providing the stiffest challenge to donald trump in this lead kickoff state. and ben carson with these stories about his biography has provided what is probably the biggest opening possible of the entire campaign for trump to go after him. we've seen trump do this with other candidates when jeb bush was his main competition, he was vociferous in taking down jeb bush. now ben carson has provided an opening and donald trump in iowa said, i am going to take that opening full force. >> there's a risk though. >> there is. >> what's happening now is the candidates are starting to share ideas about things. yes, dr. carson has been dealing with his past a little bit. but the calculation, errol, is is this the right way to re-establish himself at the right time in the right place? carly fiorina's response? let's play what we said. do we have the sound. >> it's actually a full screen. she posted it on facebook. donald, sorry, i've got to interrupt again. you would know something about pathological. how was that meeting with putin or wharton or yourself funded campaign? anyone can turn a multimillion dollar inherit anance into more money but all the money in the world won't make you as smart as ben carson. >> no, i don't think, look, there's an undeniable amount of absurdity to ben carson's claims. that it reached this point is somewhat of a failure of the process, that he was to vociferously argue that, yes, i was a maniac as a kid. it's a strange situation. donald trump, though, i think is purely trying to get headlines. in this case, using what "the new york times" politely calls a barnyard epithet. this is what donald trump needs. he needs to be talked about. he needs to be a player. he needs to be captivating. without that -- >> doesn't it matter how? when these guys are starting to debate issues and positions and things, don't you have to be in the mix on that level? >> i'm not so sure about that to be honest with you. think back to four years ago when santorum came from behind and crept up on romney and beat him. it wasn't because of policy differences. it was because santorum made contact with people and talked with them in rural counties that everybody was ignoring. there's not a whole lot of difference on foreign policy, on the hatred of obamacare. they're in the same range. >> "the washington post" has an article saying the party establishment are getting nervous, the ben carson stuff, the donald trump front-runner is making them nervous so much so that there's this ground swell to draft marco rubio. to draft mitt romney. >> mitt romney seems to be not taking that phone call as far as we can tell. some of his allies are throwing his name back in the mix. there's been nervousness among the establishment since the beginning of this. as soon as they saw trump rise endi now that you're 79 days out from the iowa caucuses, now that nervousness is moving a little bit more towards the panic button. yet nobody seems to have a solution, alisyn. this is key. this gets at what chris was talking to errol about as well. the big question hanging over this election right now is that when voters, caucusgoers in iowa, the new hampshire primary voters in the beginning of february start heading to the polls, do they go to that ballot box, go to that caucus meeting and cast their vote out of the anger that they have been feeling all year long and expressing that donald trump has been tapping into or do they start having a different calculation and say, hey, i want to vote for somebody who can win. i want to vote for somebody i can envision in the oval office. that is the calculus. i don't think we know the answer to that. the establishment in "the washington post" piece believes things will revert to how they have been, which is that voters tend to, i want a winner and i want to vote for a president. i'm not sure this cycle will repeat that kind of behavior. >> so curious, just gets curiouser and curiouser. errol, david, thanks so much for that. >> thank you. dozens have been killed, hundreds injured in two suicide bomb innings beirut. was isis behind those deadly attacks? 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>> reporter: good morning, michaela. right behind me is the scene where the second suicide bomber detonated his explosive vest. we actually were walking around in that area, the ground still covered with broken glass and with the blood of all those people who were injured. the death toll could have been much higher because there was a third suicide bomber who was killed, though, by the blast before he was able to detonate his own vest. isis has claimed responsibility for this attack. they say because this is a shiite muslim neighborhood. if you take a look behind me, you can probably see there are yellow flags everywhere. those are the flags of hezbollah and the people who live here are loyal to hezbollah and hezbollah, of course, is fighting alongside the syrian regime inside syria. isis now vowing more attacks on shiite neighborhoods like this one. but it's important to emphasize if you walk around this neighborhood, this is a civilian area. it is full of shops, michaela, cafes, restaurants, that would have been very busy at that time of the evening yesterday. most of the people who were killed in this attack, very sadly are civilians. >> clarissa, help us understand. how much influence does isis have in lebanon? >> reporter: well, this is the first instance where we've seen isis come out so brazenly and claim responsibility for an attack of this magnitude. this is the largest attack that beirut has seen in at least two years. now, it's difficult to really have an understanding of how much of a foothold isis has inside lebanon. the point is it doesn't need to have a great foothold to do a lot of damage. what isis is really trying to do, not just in lebanon but countries in turkey and jordan and across the region is so instability and create a wave of fear and fan the flames of these sectarian tensions so that it can exploit that vacuum and try to take more power. >> clarissa, thank you for that. we'll watch this for you in the coming days. thank you. we areal toing a case with major implications. utah is fighting a judge's decision to take a 9-month-old from her foster parents, apparently because they are lesbians. state officials are filing a motion with that same judge, judge scott johansson asking for him to stay his own order. if the judge says no, they promise to take it to an appeals court. the girl would be better off with heterosexual parents, the judge said, citing research but not saying exactly what research that was. >> vice president joe biden getting fired up while addressing the subject of sexual assault on college campuses. in a visit to his law school alma mater, syracuse university, he urged students to take a pledge to intervene if they see something inappropriate. he also took a stand against blaming the victim. >> built into the whole system throughout this notion that if i knew you, there must be something i did, the victim did. i should have somehow known better. what a sick standard. guys, it's not complicated. you're an upper classman. you're at a fraternity party. a lovely young freshman girl gets drunk, like too many do, especially in their freshman year. and she's nearly passing out. and you see your roommate or your fraternity brother walking her upstairs. have the gumption to step in, tell him, expose him! >> those are strong words we need on this. >> absolutely. so fired up. it's been a long time since we've heard joe biden be that energize. wow. >> absolutely. we have a special programming note to tell you about. cnn films is debuting a powerful new documentary next week about sexual assault on college campuses. and the failure of universities and the system to really address the problem. the hunting ground, premieres thursday, november 19th at 9:00 p.m. eastern. we hope you will watch that as well as our special conversation afterwa afterwards. police in virginia fire tasers at lin wood lambert. he's now dead. was this less lethal weapon the cause or is it more complicated than that? 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let's discuss with the business manager for the st. louis police officers association and a former missouri state representative. jeff, good to see you. thank you for joining us and making the case here this morning. it looks bad on videotape. make the case for the officers here. >> well, resisting cases always do look bad on video, chris. i mean, listen, this guy didn't die because of police. he didn't die because of tasers. he died because he overdosed on cocaine. >> the medical examiner said he had cocaine in his system, it wasn't that much. cocaine metabolizes very quickly. experts understand this. the medical examiners, do you know if they had full access and review of what happened in this case with the video? >> no, i don't know if the medical examiner saw the video. they did conclude that he addaied from acute cocaine intoxication. they did examine the body. and that examination led to that determination. >> but does that end the analysis or why did it end the analysis? they tased him 20 times or at least squeezed the trigger that many times in some 30 minutes. they started off by wanting to get him medical treatment. >> right, right. >> why didn't they continue through with that once they had him subdued, shackled and cuffed, why didn't they put him on the gurney like so often happens? >> this man was never subdued, chris. you see in the video, he kicks out the window of the police car with explosive force. he escapes from the police car and runs towards the e.r. >> right. >> this is not a guy you want running loose into an emergency room full of sick and injured folks. >> right. we're showing the video. you're right. this is also the reality that we're showing on the screen right now. he winds up being not just cuffed, but also shackled, tased a lot and unconscious in the back of the car. the report goes on to say that he resisted again once he got to the station. but the video shows that that is not true. there is certainly a falsehood made in that report, no question about that. it wasn't acted on but it's real. that takes me back to the original question. you had him subdued, had him shackled, cuffed, tased, why not bring him into the emergency room? and in not doing that, was that a breach of their duty? >> no. they went from taking him into protective custody, trying to get him medical treatment to arresting him because he was a danger to himself and others and had committed a crime. he broke out the police window, tried to escape from custody. you can't turn him loose on that hospital. the e.r. staff wouldn't have wanted him in there. you have to at that point arrest him. you keep talking about the 20 taser zaps. the medical examiner said there were only three taser wounds. it's very common, especially when people are wearing thick layered clothing for the taser to grab the clothing but not deliver a shock. >> the guy is in the back of the car, jeff. you know the job very well. if you have to put your fingers on my neck to see if i have a pulse, you don't need to have somebody ask for medical assistance in that kind of situation. you're right outside the e.r. you took the guy there in the first place because you thought he needed medical attention. aren't you at least a little surprised they didn't then bring him into the e.r.? >> that's not -- that's not the chronology as i understand it, chris. when they put him back in the police car he was actively resisting. it's when they get to the police station that they realize that he's lifeless and they check his pulse and they call for an ambulance. but the gentleman never complained of any medical problems in the segments of video that have aired. i haven't seen the whole video. maybe you have. he doesn't exhibit any signs of needing medical assistance other than the fact that he's obviously suffering from drug-induced delirium and that's a tough judgment call for police. >> i'm just saying they already made it. that's why they were at the e.r. >> they made the judgment that they couldn't arrest him, i assume the hotel didn't want to prosecute for the extensive property damage that he did there at the hotel. they said we can't just leave this guy here. they lock him up, take him into protective custody, try to get him to the hospital to get help and he's the one that interferes with them delivering that assistance to him by breaking the law, showing them, by demonstrating to them they can't safely deliver him to the e.r. >> this case was a decision by the prosecutor not to prosecute. we're trying to get them to comment because let's be honest, the reporting on this early on, nobody had the benefit of this video. they didn't let it come out early on. it only came out because of the discovery demands of the litigation. that's an open question as well. thank you for giving me the officers' side on this. >> thanks, chris. this is a big story. we'll continue to stay on it. there's a lot of news this morning, breaking news. let's get to it. somebody hits me at the belt, it's going in. it moves this way, it moves that way. >> unleashing his most aggressive attacks yet. >> how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap? >> what about dr. carson? do you believe he's being truthful? >> i don't want somebody that hit somebody in the face really hard with a padlock. i don't want somebody that went after his mother with a hammer. u.s. forces launched an air strike targeting jihadi john. >> if this struk was successful, it will be a strike at the heart of isil. >> a major assault to retake the strategic iraqi town from isis. >> thiscy aspecific effort to target this one supply line. >> one strike after another after another. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." it is not an exaggeration to call donald trump's rant epic. in a space of 95 minutes at a campaign stop in iowa, trump went after just about everybody in the 2016 race, including the voters. >> his most blissering attacks were directed at ben carson. first, the reporting, cnn's athena jones, more on the tirade from iowa, athena? >> good morning, chris. it was a draw-dropping political moment. it felt like you were watching history being made in a weird way. one of the longest and most eyebrow raising tirades from trump yet, full of insults against his gop rivals, democratic leaders and the media. and more tough talk for isis. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> reporter: cursing and mocking chief rival dr. ben carson. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? >> reporter: unleashing his most aggressive attacks yet in what amounted to an hour and a half long ran in the iowa. >> how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap? >> reporter: the billionaire gunning for carson. the two are virtually neck and neck in recent polls here. after the retired neurosurgeon wrote in his autobiography that as a teen he tried to stab a friend only to have it stopped by a belt buckle. >> i have a belt. somebody hits me, it's going in. the belt moves this way. it moves this way. it moves that way. he hit the belt buckle. anybody have a knife want to try it on me? believe me, it ain't going to work. >> reporter: trump comparing carson's self-described pathological temper to an incurable disease. >> i don't want a person that's got pathological disease. if you're a child molester, a sick puppy, you're a child molester, there's no cure for that. >> reporter: a theme of attack he used earlier in the night on cnn prompting carly fiorina to jump to carson's defense, writing in a facebook post all the money in the world won't make you as smart as ben carson. during his tirade, trump also attacking hillary clinton. >> she's playing the woman card up. that's all she has. honestly outside of the woman's card she has nothing going, believe me. >> reporter: the one time clear front-runner also claiming to know more about the terrorist group isis than u.s. military generals. saying he would bomb areas controlled by isis that are rich in oil. >> i would just bomb those suckers and that's right, i'd blow up the pipes. blow up the refineries. blow up every single inch. there would be nothing left. and i'd take the oil. >> reporter: in response to trump's attack, carson's campaign says trump is lashing out. it will be interesting to see how republican primary voters respond here. so far they haven't punished trump for any of his wild statements. we'll have to see if that changes. >> believe it or not, donald trump likes ben carson, at least that's what he told erin burnett. take a listen to what he told cnn about dars carson's past an jockeying for zhan at the top of the polls. >> you're on top nationally. in some polls is he within spitting distance, some of them he's been ahead. how are you going to separate yourself from him? does he worry you? >> you always think about everybody. somebody said who's your closest competitor? other than the ones on the absolute bottom tier. you wonder why certain people are hanging around. it can't be helpful to them, their family or their brand, flankly. somebody said who's your number one? i haven't done it on this side. i've been a politician for four or five months. i haven't done it from the standpoint of running from office. i've been a businessman, created tremendous numbers of tens of thousands of jobs and built a great company. i've never done this. i would say you have three or four or five people that would have a shot. >> and in terms of dr. carson, you've said some of the questions about his past are fair. there have been questions about what really happened, what his childhood was like. he said at the debate the other night i have a problem with being lied about. do you believe he's being truthful now that you've heard his answers? >> first of all, i like him. i get along with him very well. this is in his book. i'm not bringing up anything that's not in his book. when he says he went after his mother and wanted to hit her in the head with a hammer, that bothers me. that's pretty bad. when he says he's pathological and he says that in the book, i don't say that. again, i'm not saying anything other than pathological is a very serious disease. and he said he's pathological, somebody said he has a pathological disease. other people said he said in the book, i haven't seen it, i know it's in the book, that he has a pathological temper or temperament. that's a big problem. because you don't cure that. that's like -- i could say -- as an example, child molester. you don't cure these people. you don't cure a child molester. there's no cure for it. pathologic pathological, there's no cure for that. now, i didn't say it. he said it in his book. when i hear somebody's pathological, when somebody says i went after my mother with -- he's saying about himself, with a hammer to hit her in the head, i say, whoa, i never did. you never did. i don't know anybody that ever did personally. that's a big statement. when he said he hit a friend of his in the face with a lock, with a padlock, right in the face, i say, whoa, that's pretty bad. when he said he stand somebody with a knife but it hit a belt buckle, i know a lot about knives and belt buckles. they're going to turn, twist, they're not solid, especially if somebody's got a couple of extra pounds on. they move. there's a lot of movement. so the chances of somebody going like that, hitting a belt buckle where it doesn't slide off and go into -- >> you're not satisfied yet? >> i just don't know. when somebody said he's pathological, you'll have to ask him that question. look, i hope it's fine. because i think it would be a shame. but think of it. what he's saying is these things happened. it would be nicer if he said none of these things happened. he's saying these things happened, therefore, i have credibility. i'd rather have them if they didn't happen. i don't want somebody who hit somebody in the face really hard with a padlock. i don't want somebody who went after his mother with a hammer. >> to be president. >> frankly, i didn't read his book. according to the book, he said he's pathological. that's a serious term. >> trump coming heavy and often at ben carson, demanding a chance to respond for the carson campaign to be sure. let's do that with a friend of ben carson. his business manager, armstrong williams who joins us from london this morning. thank you very much for taking the time to join us from there. let me play you some of the sound and get your official response. >> how dare the press not believe me that i went after my mother with a hammer! that i hit somebody in the face with a padlock! that i tried to stab a friend of mine whose name was bob but now it's changed. whose name was bob, he was a friend but now he's a member of my family. >> should dr. carson's past, if all true, be a disqualifying factor as mr. trump seems to be suggesting? >> good morning, chris. dr. carson was 14 years old at the time. it was a half century ago. mr. trump speaks of this as if it happened within the last year. i mean, are you kidding me? it's so sad watching and listening to him. i mean, a man who is so accomplished, who has been so blessed but yet cannot fathom why dr. carson or anyone else would be doing better than he in the presidential race right now. he cannot accept leading from behind. he cannot accept being challenged. he cannot reconcile how this is happening. obviously he only wants to be on the stage by himself. crown the nominee and run against the eventual democratic challenger. it's just, you know, it's so immature. it's so embarrassing. i feel so sorry for him. when i spoke with dr. carson about this yesterday, asking how should we respond? he was so sad by it. he said pray for him. he feels sorry for him because he really likes mr. trump. he likes what mr. trump brings to the campaign, this election, his voice with the immigration. but to see him imploding before our very eyes, it's just sad to watch. >> so let's move on to something that isn't about half a century ago. the relationship with al costa and what happened with him pleading guilty to charges of fraud in 2007. we understand that dr. carson says he stands by him, even though he was very outspoken saying that people who commit this kind of fraud in health care should go to jail. explain. >> chris, dr. costa and dr. carson are the best of friends. they've known each other for ages. mr. costa admitted his wrongdoing, he paid the price for it. and he has moved on to even more success. it is something that happens, i'm sure if you look at any presidential candidate, anyone who have had relationships with someone, there are challenges they've had. there are charges that have been alleged. sometimes people go to jail. sometimes people are falsely accused. sometimes people are rightly accused. dr. carson is a friend. he respects mr. costa. he will always be his friend. he's saying what any lawyer friend would say. he stands by him through thick and thin. >> i understand and respect the idea of being loyal to friends, of course. i think most would. that's not all this is about, armstrong. this is about defending a man who eventually pleaded guilty to these charges and then saying that people who are guilty of such charges should be very harshly treated. there's an inconsistency there that i'm asking you to explain. >> life, sometimes, chris, as human beings is contradictory. you know? we have these positions that we take and sometimes we speak in a vacuum because often they don't personally impact us. and then sometimes we are personally impacted by the rhetoric we have about others and then we realize that life is not so simplistic and not so easy. when it's somebody you care about, it causes you to rethink your position and how you think in the past. you think better and become human and you've had the opportunity to walk in somebody else's shoes. if it's something you care about at the time that's being impacted. life is just the way it happens. >> that's true. life can get very messy but the concern would be consistency and no concern about a double standard, that if a friend of dr. carson's is involved he feels one way. if it's not a friend of dr. carson, he feels another way. that would not be something that people would want to capture in a president, i would suspect. >> you know, yes, chris, there are those that will embrace what they're saying and sometimes we what we have to do in life is we have to face these circumstances that we can condemn. i have been there. there are things that i've condemned and railed against as a conservative. it caused me to be more humble, less judgmental and realizing that when people paid a price for whatever their crimes and whatever their indiscretions are, especially if it's somebody you care about, you learn, you grow, you become a better human being and become less judgmental. >> so going forward, what do you think dr. carson is going to be able to do to maintain and grow his base, outside of iowa, outside of those who are as religiously motivated and grow that tent? >> i think if you read some of the most recent articles in "the new york times," and other newspapers and research that is done by television stations, you will find even when i was on with you guys a week or so ago, you showed dr. carson was expanding his base beyond evangelicals to independents and people otherwise who would not consider voting for him. dr. carson has to get into the details of his policies, whether it's immigration, whether it's taxes, whether it's medicaid, whether it's how we deal with isis and isis in our foreign policy. he really has to get into real detail. he has to convince people who like him, who trust him, they have to believe that he has the capacity to lead from a policy position, from a substantive position, that he can learn these issues and articulate them in a way where they find they're willing to trust him to become the next president of the united states, not just for every day constituency. there are many establishment republicans in this country who are still on the fence. they don't want to spend their money with candidates that they feel have no chance of winning. and they're not exactly happy with mr. trump or dr. carson. they're willing to give dr. carson more of the benefit of the doubt if he's willing to show them he can conquer and master the issues of policies that are important. >> that's why we invite the doctor on to talk about policy. there's a lot to discuss. armstrong williams, thanks for being with us on "new day," as always. >> thank you, chris. >> over to you. >> i'll take it, chris, thank you. >> i'llson. this is cnn breaking news. >> we do have breaking news for you now out of iraq. we understand the critical city of sinjar is back under the control of iraq. it has been wrestled out of the grip of isis. cnn's senior international correspondent nick paton walsh is live on the ground in sinjar with all of the breaking developments. nick? >> reporter: we've just come out of the city of sinjar which seems to confirm what kurdish leader is saying, that they have liberated that city. he called it an important step in the future for the liberation of the other major city here, mosul in iraq. also in the hands of isis. but simply declaring the city behind me as liberated isn't the end of the job. there's large numbers of kurdish peshmerga as they were close to the center, old buildings, isis kept a neatly tended lawn in their old district center and still at one point, a bullet flew officer our heads. that sparked a lot of commotion within the peshmerga. they fired back. seemed to be deeply concerned about the possibility of isis snipers hiding around the buildings. we later saw one of their own number, it seemed, being carried out injured. still a lot of volatility there. a swedish volunteer fighting with the peshmerga we spoke to said in fact he'd seen a number of barrels laden with explosives under the ground in some tunnel networks, potentially this has been suggested isis fighters are disguising themselves as peshmerga, hiding in theles. highing in the tunnels. this declaration, the town has, quote, been liberated is a huge plug. not only for the peshmerga who whose tactics and numbers have paid off but also for the coalition who brought in the air support. we saw an a-10 attack plane in the skies today. that has simply changed the equati equation, put the peshmerga on top. we've seen the results down there. it's an unsteady calm certainly. there's isis around but an enormous move here in the one city symbolic in how it fell into isis hands. the damage the yazidi with is with them. >> a big development there. pentagon officials confirm targeting the mass executioner known as jihadi john in a u.s. drone strike in syria. investigators are trying to determine definitively whether mohammed emwazi was killed. we'll get the latest from cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara? >> reporter: it was a highly classified operation, carried out by the military's joint special operations command. the very same organization that helped plan the mission to kill osama bin laden. breaking overnight, the pentagon confirming u.s. special operations forces launched a drone strike targeting the masked isis executioner known as jihadi john. a u.s. official says after tracking him for days, authorities are confident the drone strike killed the kuwaiti-born british citizen identified as mohammed emwazi. but still, they are awaiting final confirmation. >> certainly is a symbolic victory for the united states, the coalition and our partners. it does bring closure to those families. >> reporter: the u.s. official says authorities knew it was emwazi when they took the shot. another u.s. official tells cnn emwazi was in a vehicle at the time of the strike. near raqqa, isis's de facto capital in syria. emwazi appeared in a series of horrific isis beheading videos, documenting the murder of several american, british and japanese hostages. he was often seen wielding a knife only his eyes and hands exposed. taunting u.s. and british leaders. >> we'll continue to strike the necks of your people. >> reporter: this morning, the uk government saying britain was working hand in glove with america over the jihadi john drone strike. >> this was an act of self-defense. it was the right thing to do. >> reporter: emwazi, in his mid-20s grew up in london and graduated with a degree in computer programming before becoming radicalized. >> if this strike was successful and we still await confirmation of that, it will be a strike at the heart of isil. >> reporter: how will they get confirmation this morning? the u.s. military and intelligence communities scouring social media, classified intercepts and everything and anything they can to get a sign out of syria, some signal that jihadi john indeed is dead. chris? >> barbara, we await word. thank you for staying on it for pus defense secretary ash carter is looking for a new senior military aide. he's fired his right-hand man at the pentagon following allegations of misconduct. general ron lewis removed from his post. no details on the exact type of alleged misconduct. carter says the defense department is investigating. an alleged isis sympathizer in ohio arrested for allegedly soliciting people to murder u.s. military members. he professed his support for the islamic state and trbted a file online containing names, addresses and photographs of dozens of american military personnel. he was the terrifying and sinister face of isis to westerners. now a u.s. air strike may have taken out jihadi john. what would his death mean for the larger war against isis? 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>> this say pretty big deal. it led to the siege of sinjar mountain which isis was using that as an opportunity to commit genocide against the yazidi ethnic minority. the crucial struggle is highway 47, this binds it together, this is the route 66 of isis. if that can be taken. as of yesterday, it seemed as though 35 miles had been i intercepted. >> is the u.s. stepping up the battle against isis? has something shifted? >> it is alisyn, very good news. the key is, it's already been identified, not only do you need to isolating. this is where the real heavy lifting starts. that's been the challenge all along, alisyn. we can be very successful in coordinati coordination. the coalition can be successful in coordination going against very specific targets but then you have to build upon that success and that takes a lot more what i would call foundational capabilities than what we've been willing to commit to this fight so far. if we're going to degrade, that's one thing. if we're going to defeat, that's a significant step up in terms of capabilities required. >> as you both know, there have been questions and critics for the obama administration's approach to this, saying what's the strategy? fareed zakaria sat down with john kerry. >> we'll stabilize the countries in the region, jordan, lebanon, work with turkey and we are going to seek a political settlement. that is exactly the strategy today. it is working to a degree, not as fast as we would like, perhaps, but we are making gains. >> so michael, is that what we're seeing today? >> no. i mean what we're seeing today is what you see in the course of any kind of war, a tactical success or victory, one that is not being backed up by strategic forethought. let's talk about the consequences of sinjar. what's crucial here is holding the town. the difficulty in doing that is the coalition built on the ground to take sinjar back is mostly a kurdish one. even within the kurdish coalition, there are internal divisions and rivalries. you have the pkk, which is a turkish u.s. eu designated turkish organization. then you have the kurdish peshmerga. they are already competing with we did this, we did this. they're trying to steal each other's thunder in terms of military strikes. can they govern or hold sinjar together without sort of devolving into sort of a civil war unto themselves? this is the issue. there are unintended consequences of the war, too. we're all about holding the nation states together. the problem is, our strategy going forward or whatever you want to call it, is leading to the balkanization of syria and iraq. the kurds are carving out their own statelet, called rojava. the integral state of syria, this exists only in name at this point. >> i want to shift to the other big news, that is that a u.s. air strike may have, it appears, killed jihadi john, the man behind those sickening beheading videos. how sickening would that be if he's dead? >> it's significant because it demonstrates the ability of our coalition, led by the united states, let's be frank, in terms of getting intelligence capabilities down to the lowest levels and making them operationalized. we've been perfecting that skill for years. it is precise and fight phenomenal. it's all about persistent surveillance. what we're seeing is the use of the word persistent as a matter of routine. we have to be able to keep this smothering capability of intelligence to go after folks like jihadi john. bear in mind he's a foot soldier who happens to say he became the front or face of isis. the fact that he is gone is no big deal except that we, the coalition sends a powerful message. the key issue is back to the point that you've already made, alisyn. we'll be at this an extremely long time if all we're doing is containing this caliphate and going after it where it tries to per tru-d on the sides. isis has already demonstrated it's metastatic and it can expand. it's been in north africa, the sin sinai. this is an international terrorist organization with an incredible reach and capability and appeal. that's what's important. >> spider marks, michael weiss, great to get your expertise. thank you. alisyn, donald trump is on the attack, slamming his chief rival ben carson in an epic tirade. will these tactics catch up with him or does it help him with supporters? 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they're at 20%, 25%. they're at 25% of what? of 26% of the electorate. that's what republicans compromise. so truly what they're commanding is a constituency that is somewhere between 5% and 7% of the populous. that's not going to get you a general election victory if you can win the nomination. >> well, but then you dismiss polls that have carson being hilla -- beating hillary. >> i do. i do. i believe the attention has not yet drilled down to trump's point. look, they are fantastical. they are eyebrow raising accounts. the belt buckle story is one that i think is deserving of attention. the yale story about how it now turns out, it appears he got pram pranked in a psychology exam, the popeye story he told to me on the radio when he explained to me, i directed the gunman to the appropriate individual. he gets a pass on this, chris, from his constituency because the story ends with a spiritual epiphany. as long as he finds the lord in the end, evangelicals are willing to overlook. >> or he gets a pass because they believe him or they don't care and ultimately they want to know whether or not this guy is going to make their life any better. how much are you going to care about this kind of stuff at the end of the day? >> maybe all of those is true. that ultimately is not a significant enough base to win a general election. it may win you iowa. it's not a strategy that will play in new hampshire nor it is one that will play in south carolina or florida. >> donald trump not only had that event that we just showed a snippet of last night. he sat down with erin burnett on cnn and he laid out his immigration plan in a little bit more detail. he plans to make a deportation force to get to the 11 million undocumented workers that are currently here. employers use e-verify, it might solve some of the problem on its own. president obama responded to donald trump's immigration plan for the first time. listen to president obama. >> first of all, i have no idea where mr. trump thinks the money is going to come from. it would cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to execute that. imagine the images on the screen flashed around world as we were dragging parents away from their children and putting them in detention centers and then systematical systematically setting them up. that's not who we are as americans. >> president obama says nobody thinks that's realistic. donald trump supporters do. >> well, i think donald trump supporters would like to see it carried out because my own view is that much of the support that he's deriving is predicated on the changing demographics of the country, individuals looking at what the nation will look like in 2050, if not sooner. they're unsettled. they feel threatened by it. so when donald trump puts forth the idea that he's going to replicate operation wetback, it salves what they are looking for. >> the other side of the equation is, for them not to be able to win a general, that means there is someone who can. hillary clinton is the presumptive favorite. we have the debate tomorrow night for the democrats. she goes in with a healthy set of numbers, except, michael, she has a huge built-in negative and narratives hanging over her head that will be easy to make political hay of. >> there's no doubt about that. in addition to my radio program and what i do on cnn, i speak to professional groups. i spoke to one yesterday. they said who wins in the end? i say advantage democrats but you can't say game over, because of her vulnerabilities, because chris of what you just pointed out, untrustworthy is at the top of the word cloud when you ask americans about hillary clinton. it appears to me that 45% of the country is ready to go out and wild horses couldn't keep them away from voting for her and 45% of the nation is ready to go against her, regardless of the opponent. there's a small sliver of independents who hold all the cards in this election. >> michael smerconish, thanks so much. have a great weekend. >> you wi, too. did a jij udge in utah go t far, ordering a lesbian couple to get up their foster child to a heterosexual couple. the decision has been challenged. where is this fight going to go next? i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. i'm mary ellen, and i quit smoking with chantix. i have smoked for thirty years and by taking chantix, i was able to quit in three months. and that was amazing. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it absolutely reduced my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you have these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems, or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. most common side effect is nausea. i can't believe i did it. i quit smoking. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. the medicare enrollment deadline is just a few weeks away. changes to medicare plans could significantly impact your healthcare costs. to find out if you're are you getting all the benefits you're entitled to call healthmarkets? 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i want to ask jeffrey toobin. i work with foster kids, adoptive kids. i'm an advocate for them. this has gotten under my collar. i want to find out what the legality of all of this is. this lesbian couple was looking to adopt this baby girl, had the support of the birth mother, the biological mother, the first mother. did this judge overstep his bounds or was this up to his discretion. >> that's where this case is a little murky. we don't have a written opinion from the judge. we only have what the judge apparently said to people. but the judge's duty was to decide what was in the best interest of the child. he said, apparently, that he felt, according to studies he's read, that it's better for kids to be raised in a heterosexual household. now, according to every study i've seen and all the studies that came out in the course of the litigation over same-sex marriage, that is not true. >> right. we know that leading adoption advocacy groups have new research saying that there is no sexual -- there's no bearing on the child, the sexual orientation of the parents. >> correct. that's why i think if in fact that's what he said, his ruling is very vulnerable to being overturned on appeal, because it would have been based on an incorrect factual basis. but, again, we don't know exactly what he said. >> okay. >> but that appears to be his reasoning. it appears to be just dead wrong. >> we know that just this past march utah passed an anti-discrimination bill protecting lgbt residents from discrimination and prejudice. would that not fall under this? >> possibly. although the best interest of the child might actually trump that law, if there was some legitimate basis for finding that the best interest of the child would be served by taking the child away. utah is somewhat unusual. i think people might be surprised by that, that it is one of the half or so states in the country that has passed an anti-discrimination law involving sexual orientation. it's generally thought of as a conservative state. that could play into it. but it would also have to interact in the judge's calculations with the issue of the best interest of the child. >> before it even gets to a judge, there's all sorts of work that was done, if this couple was approved to adopt this baby girl, the biological mother supported this adoption. they would have had to go through home studies, security checks, visits to their house and all sorts of background done on them. they passed that and were approved, yet this judge can overrule that? >> that's what makes this appear such an outrageous case, because the only thing that this judge seemed to have a problem with was not their qualifications to be parents but simply because they were a gay couple, not a straight couple. >> we know even the governor of utah, who is a conservative, we know his name is gary herbette, he's the governor there. he said he's concerned that judge johansson is being a, quote, activist from the bench. does it give that appearance? >> not activist, ignoreameous, which is a difference. if he's relying on the fact that kids are better off with straight parents rather than gay parents, that's wrong according to studies. that's worse than activism, that's bigotry, discrimination. it is not simply the judge imposing his own views. >> we know the dcfs of the state will review and investigate this order. but this -- here's -- the judge himself has made other questionable decisions, ordering a teenager's mother to cut off her daughter's pony tail as she faced assault charges for cutting most of a toddler's hair off. sending a boy on probation to jail for stealing a pack of gum because he violated his probation by getting a poor report card. should this guy be on the bench, jeffrey? >> there are a lot of judges in america. they're not all great. and this guy seems like he's got a lot of problems. this is why we sometimes we form a service in our industry by pointing stuff like this out. >> real quick question. what recourse does the family have? this couple, they're obviously going to fight this, try and get the baby back. do you think they have hope? this is terrifying. >> it's terrifying but the system does appear to be working here. he is a trial court judge. there are at least two levels of appeals to come if they want to push it that far. this story, i'm pleased to say, is by no means over. >> there's over 100,000 children that are eligible for adoption, awaiting a permanent home in the u.s. foster care system. they need safe, loving homes. let's make sure we don't do another disservice to these kids. my goodness, this really is fight a story. jeffrey, thanks for walking us through the legalities of all of this. >> all right. >> get in on the conversation using on twitter, new day cnn. jump on to facebook as well. carly fiorina on tinder? no, not exactly. you'll get the joke when we look at late-night preliminary punch lines, next. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... this is brad. hey brad, wanna trade the all day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? 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we'll have to wait and see but a vast pocket of success right here. >> your reporting really paints a picture for us. thank you for that. oempblt the u.s. launching a drone strike to try and eliminate the man who has beheaded isis hostages, taunted the world in videos. barbara starr broke the story overnight and joins us with new details. >> good morning. cnn has learned that the u.s. was watched jihadi john from a drone and aircraft over head since wednesday. they had a bead on where he was located. they watched him move around. and yesterday when he stepped out of a building into a car in syria they took the shot. breaking overnight, the pentagon confirming u.s. special operations forced launched a drone strike targeting the masked isis executioner jihadi john. a u.s. official says after tracking him for days authorities are confident the drone strike killed the kuwaitty born british citizen identified as muhammed emwazi. still they are awaiting final confirmation. >> symbolic victory for the united states the coalition and our partners and it does bring closer to those families. >> they knew it was emwazi when they took the shot. another u.s. official tells cnn emwazi was in a vehicle at the time of the strike, near raqqa, emwazi appeared in a series of horrific isis beheading videos documenting the murder of several american, british and japanese hostages. he was often seen wielding a knife only his eyes and hands exposed taunting u.s. and british leaders. >> we'll continue to strike the next of your people. >> this morning the u.k. government saying britain was working hand in glove with america over the jihadi john drone strike. >> this was an act of self defense. it was the right thing to do. >> emwazi who is in his mid twenties grew up in london and graduated with a degree in computer programming before becoming radicalized. >> if this strike was successful -- is and we still await confirmation -- it will be a strike at the heart of isil. >> the drone strike was carried out by the u.s. military's joint special operations command out of fort bragg. the same that helped carry out the mission to kill osama bin laden. >> very important elements. let's figure out what they mean in the big picture. the president was speaking p on topic not long ago. here is what he had to say. >> i don't think they are gaining strength. what is true is that from the start our goal has been first to contain. and we have contained them. they have not gained ground in iraq. and in syria it -- they will come in, they will leave. but you don't see this systematic march by isil across the terrain. what we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. we've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign -- >> so let's put that in con ferks for us. a lot of people believe they actually are established in syria and that is where their capital is and they don't just go in and out. what do you make of this? >> we have to be careful. we've had other good movements. military movements on the edges of isis where they have taken cities and lost cities. in sinjar, you have to be careful. this is going take some time in that city. many believe and if you talk to analysts they will tell you that thing is mined to the teeth with booby traps of all sorts. the city itself isn't necessarily important. it is cutting off the logistical lines between raqqa and mosul is important. on the isis part, i disagree with the president a little. they have expanded their operations. we find them in northern africa. we've seen them do attacks in afghanistan. so to say they have been contained i don't think is accurate. they have an expanded territorial holding in iraq but that is not containing isis. now we've also seen they took credit more the bombs in leba n lebanon. so they are trying to push out their sphere of influence and have been successful at doing that. the first phase of this attack i think is critically important but it must be sustained. you can't just walk away from it now. >> and the idea that they are atin rant when it comes to syria, that they are not there with a significant presence is very different than what i've been hearing all along that raqqa is the presumptive capital for isis. that they do have big tent pegs down in the ground there. what do you say? >> absolutely. that was a little confusing to me. all of the intelligence showed that they had a well-established command and control structures in eastern syria. as a matter of fact that is where they grew. that is where they developed. most of the folks that left the prison after the u.s. withdraw, including baghdadi went to eastern syria to develop, train, give safe haven, free space. and that is where it generated from. so i don't believe that is accurate. >> and now the head line about jihadi john. the murderous isis guy from the videos with the british accent. what do you hear about whether or not they got him? they believe they got him. there is no confirmation. and what does it really matter? >> well as the psychological blow to isis for sure. it is starting to show that you can reach out and touch them even in what they believe is their safe haven in and around raqqa. that is really critical for morale, for actually starting to get people to defect and do other things. that is i think a very very important kill. as far as the combat structure not much. but that psychological blow, because he is such a visible figure and promoter of isis and he was the guy that was doing the beheadings, and he had that huge following. for that reason it was important. it will take some days chris. what they will do is through signals chatter, they will call it is how they will be able to confirm over a period of time. so they will have sources that they can work with and signals intelligence that will confirm for sure that it is him. i guarantee if they took that shot that there was a high probability that it was him. >> yesterday isis released audio threatening to attack russia very soon. do you think that russia is because of the optics now having the competitive sense in the war. do you think that we are going to see them going at isis heavy and hard as a preemptive strike? >> well i think that the russia will in fact. their first priority is going to make sure that assad is okay in that zone. they will use that opportunity. their safe haven if you will, for assad and his troops, his government troops. which is what you have seen. that is why they were doing the bombs. they were making sure they developed some safe haven ground to operate. so freedom to breathe. then they will take it to isis. i have no doubt that they will do that. it is in their own self interest to do that and that is exactly why they will do it. pause it is in their own self interest. >> and we'll see what happens with that. mike rodgers. thank you for the perspective. appreciate it. . have a good weekend. >> donald trump taking his stump speech up a level with a 95 minute tirade blasting everyone and calling some iowa voters stupid. what happened last night athena? >> it was really a sight to behold last night. it was one of the longest and most ie brow raising tie rates from trump yet. full of insults against gop rivals, democratic leaders and the media. and more tough talk for isis. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> cursing and mocking chief rival dr. ben carson. >> how stupid are the people of iowa. >> unleashing his most aggressive attacks yet in what amounted to a hour and a half long rant in iowa. >> how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap. >> the two are neck in neck in recent polls after the retired neuro surgeon wrote in his autobiography that as a teen he tried to stab a friend only to have it stopped by a belt buckle. >> i have a belt. somebody hits me with a belt it is going in. because it moves this way. it moves this way. it moves that way. he hit the belt buckle. anybody have a knife? do you want to try it on me? believe me, it ain't gonna work. >> trump comparing carson's self described pathological temper to an incurable disease. >> i don't want a person that's got pathological disease. if you are a child molester -- a sick puppy, you are a child molester, there is no cure for that. >> a theme he used earlier in the night on cnn. prompting fiorina to jump to carson's defense. and trump also attacking hillary clinton. >> she's playing approximate woman card. that is all she has. honestly outside of the woman's card she's got nothing going. >> the one time clear front runner also claiming to know more about the terrorist group isis than u.s. military generals saying he would bomb areas controlled by isis that are rich in oil. >> i would just bomb those suckers. and that is right. i'd blow up the pipes. i'd blow up the re -- i'd blow up every single inch. there would be nothing left. and i'd take the oil. >> now in response to trump's attack, a top carson campaign aide said to pray for trump. the aide also called trump's rant, embarrassing, immature and to see trump, quote, imploding before our eyes is sad to watch. >> and i'm sure in the course of the day we'll hear more reaction to that. thanks. more aircraft facing laser attacks overnight. a news chopper for ktla in california targeted several times. a 15-year-old boy was arrested and then released to his parents in that case. more incidents in dallas, a southwest flight. two private airplanes both hit. no arrests have been made in those. more than twenty aircraft were struck by lasers wednesday. this is not funny. it is a crime. you will go to jail if you are caught. >> true true. a surprise verdict at the so called good fella's trial in new york. vincent asaro cleared of all counts in connection with the lufthansa airlines heist in 1978. the 80-year-old faced life in prison if convicted. if you have been struggling to have children, listen up. there is a potential game change for are women struggling with infertility. surgeon tats cleveland chinic will become the first in the u.s. to transplant a uterus into a woman, which could allow infertile women to have children. recipients will be those born without a uterus or had it removed or had uterine damage. this is being called a true breakthrough. >> and after the women can done having children they would remove it again and then they would have to go off all of those drugs, the antirejection drugs,ette etc. >> i work with couples with infertility. i have for a long time and it is just great when there is a game changer. it will give a lot of people home. >> this will make it a high risk pregnancy but doesn't -- >> what is the downside? 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>> you do it through a process you do in humane manner. >> but they are not going to want to leave -- >> they are here illegally. if a person comes across the border and you send them right back. the border patrol sends them right back. there is not a big court session. >> but -- >> excuse me. what is the difference from somebody coming over the border for two days he gets caught and you brick him back and somebody whoest a here a year. there is no difference. >> logistically in terms of finding them and getting them to go. >> you have to find them. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you can also do everify, where the employers aren't going to be hiring them and that's one way. you do everify where an employer has a big problem if he hires these people and they are all going to go back of their own volition. that is one way. >> the number is big. -- >> these are people -- >> they say [inaudible]. beggar th bigger than the department of defense budget. >> excuse me. $15 billion to build a wall that aisle do for six. and my wall will be bigger and better and stronger and more powerful. let me explain something. illegal immigration costs us between 200 and $300 billion each year. when you include crime and other problems it is more than that. so you are talking about 200 and 300 billion, the way it is now. >> but they pay in taxes. >> who pays in taxes? do you really believe -- they pay very little. >> security state and local. >> what percent? 10%? excuse me. do you know how few pay taxes? do you think an illegal immigrant getting money is going to pay taxes? some probably do only because employers are insisting. but percentagewise very little. it is a very small amount. they are here illegally. they are not paying taxes. i heard this one before too. i hear them all. what i do is i get things better. i make things really good. i fix things. i'm a real fixer of things. not jeb bush. okay? i'm a real fixer. i can really do things. one of the relationships the wall never got built they couldn't their environmental impact statement. between everify take care of a big portion, they're going back. and in they can't get a job they're going back anyway. >> are you going to be sending in officers into people's homes to get them out? >> we're going to be doing in a very nice way. we are going to be giving notice and saying you have to go back to wherever the country is. all different countries. there is not one country. back to the country. we'll take them back to the countries. we're going to do it humanely. but between everify and other modern systems a lot of that will happen automatically. and don't forget we are taking tremendous numbers of jobs from people born in this country. and when you look at the roads you have a hundred million people that potentially want to work and they can't find jobs. >> they don't want to pick grapes though. >> maybe not. and do you know what? we can solve that with work visas where they come in and they work legally. they pay taxes and then they go out. i'm all for that. i think that is true because i agree with you. they might not want to pick grapes. not their thing. you know they don't want to do that. and that is okay. but we'll have a work visa where they can come in, work and then at the right time they have to go back out. >> for his part, president obama is not buying donald trump's immigration plan. in fact he's slamming the republican candidate's proposal going as far as calling it un-american. listen. >> first of all, i have no idea where mr. trump thinks is money is going to come from. it would cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to execute that. imagine the images on the screen flashed around the world as we were dragging parents away from their children and putting them in detention centers and then systematically sending them out. nobody thinks that that is realistic. but more importantly, that's not who we are as americans. >> i mean, you know, donald trump has talked about the money. he would make mexico pay for the wall he says and because his economic plan would be so robust, that is where all the new money would come from. >> yeah the imaginae imagery ig for so many. people being rounded up. it is hard to get past that. >> it is the land of inclusion. it is a real question who we are and what we are. i think it is the big thing that is driving this election. i think there is real anger. i think trump is certainly the faceful. but there are real questions and i think certainly that's the president's opinion. and may be what the country was. but what are we today? what are we going to be tomorrow? interesting question. >> you are going to like the next segment. how is all this playing in the republican party? you might remember the strategy interview withsununu. he's back with his unique perspective. nothing. romance. 18 inch alloys. you remembered. family fun. everybody squeeze in. don't block anyone. and non-stop action. noooooooo! it's the event you don't want to miss. it's the season of audi sales event. get up to a $2,500 bonus for highly qualified lessees on select audi models. the markets change, at t. rowe price, our disciplined investment approach remains. we ask questions here. look for risks there. and search for opportunity everywhere. global markets may be uncertain. but you can feel confident in our investment experience... ... around the world. call a t. rowe price investment specialist, or your advisor... ...and see how we can help you find global opportunity. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. the has unlimited access is thatto information,tion no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather, we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe; and to us that feels really good. a moment ago you heard donald trump explaining his immigration plan to erin burnett on cnn. so what do leaders in his party think? let's bring in john sununu. good morning governor. how are you doing this morning? >> good morning. how are you? >> doing well. thanks so much for being here. i know that you like to have policy discussions. so let's do that. let's start with immigration policy. i don't know if you had a chance to hear the interview? >> i did. >> good. >> just to recap. >> i had to turn my sound down but it was okay. >> i don't know if you get the full gist with the sound down. so will let me just recap for our viewers what donald trump told erin in terms of his immigration policy. he says he would insist employers use e verify and that would sort of lick the problem. he says people would then self deport. and for those who stuck around he would use a deportation force like president eisenhower did in the past. what do you think of that plan? >> well first of all let's put the whole immigration issue in conte context. it was an issue in 2012 in the romney campaign. it was going to be an issue in this campaign anyway. so trump's claim that we're only talking about it because of his involvement is ridiculous. secondly, all of the republicans have the same plan for about two-thirds of the immigrants that are here. 40% of the problem is overstaying visa. every republican says we have to address that aggressive will with data processing and with processing track down on those that have overstayed visas. that is 40% of the problem. in addition, every republican says use everify. trump thinks he's the only one talking about everify? baloney. so two-thirds of the problem is common in terms of solution. so the one difference is the trump force. the trump force is a farce. there is no way he would ever get legal authority to do that kind of stuff. it is true that if we start e requiring employers to make sure they are not hiring illegals that over a short period of time even that last percentage will eventually dribble out of the country. most republicans have the same plan. they don't have the same hot rhetor rhetoric. >> as senator ted cruz was take up bridge with you saying he shares the same plan. he has lumped marco rubio into a group he says contains chuck schumer and hillary clinton. let me play what ted cruz says about his plan versus the others. >> when chuck shumer and barack obama joined with establishment republicans in pushing the massive amnesty plan, the gang of eight bill, i joined side by side with senator sessions. we led the fight to defeat amnesty. and we beat it in congress. we defeated it. >> isn't ted cruz in a different category than others senator? >> no. ted cruz is wrong. amnesty is dead. no republican wants to have amnesty. what they want to do is address the problem in a constructive way it. has to be addressed. there is not a single candidate running today that doesn't -- on the republican side, that does not acknowledge it has to be addressed. i think the biggest difference is in the heat and severity of the rhetoric. and i hope that that is not the decidic factor as people go out and make this election. >> let's talk about foreign policy and the fight for isis because donald trump also talked about his plan to defeat isis. so listen to this. >> i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me. i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. i would just bomb those suckers. and, that's right, i'd blow up every single inch. there would be nothing left. >> okay. governor. what do you think of that plan? >> look, that whole rabbnt in ia is the reason that we should not have a reality show star as president of the united states. i'm not a great fan of ben carson's. but his attack on ben carson, which was either just followed or was just before that, that let's bomb them to the stone age rant, was irrational. it was rude, it was crude. and frankly politically, it was dumb. and this is the problem. it applies equally to the fact that every strategy that mr. trump puts on the table is dependent on hot rhetoric to get the emotional response from the voters but has no rationality or substance behind it in terms of being able to be implemented. i think everybody -- >> but governor -- >> i think everybody running wants the u.s. to be more aggressive to isis. they want the u.s. to use all of its air power to its fullest extent. mr. trump likes to put it in terms of hot language to bomb them to the stone age. but the fact is every republican running except rand paul is willing to use u.s. air power to its fullest in dealing with the needs in the middle east. >> there is a washington post article that suggests establishment republicans are getting nervous and they are getting nervous because of some of the things you have touched on. they are not that comfortable with donald trump being the front runner. not even comfortable with ben carson being the front runner and there might be this ground swell of interest in drafting mitt romney to get into the race. what do you think? >> i'm not a party to those discussions. but last time i talked to him a couple of months he was adama adamantly opposed to getting in this race. i do think that what you saw in iowa yesterday is the beginning of the unraveling of the loud mouth's campaign. >> would you want to see romney? you have made it clear how you feel about trump being the front runner. so what is the solution? do you see a field where one of the more establishment republicans does come to the fore? or should mitt romney get in? >> i think this is really going to come down to rubio and jeb. maybe kasich will stay in there. maybe christie will stay in there. it will come down to people who can handle the office of the presidency in the long run. i have faith in the american voter that when they really get down to making their decision and deciding how they are going to cast their votes that they are going to be a little bit more rational than they have been up until now in responding to the polls. >> governor sununu, always a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. we have word of twin suicide bombings in beirut and isis claiming responsibility. if that is true, what does that tell us about their capabilities and expansion beyond syria? all of this when we return. a pair of suicide bombings striking southern beirut on thursday, isis claiming responsibility. we have cnn senior international correspondent joining us live from beirut. what is the latest? >> reporter: good morning, chris. well we are here at the scene of where the second suicide bomber detonated his explosive vest. and we've been walking around inside that area. it is still covered in broken glass and still fresh blood al over the ground from the 43 people killed and the more than 200 injured. that death toll could have been higher. there was a third suicide bomber who was killed by the first two blasts and did not successfully detonate his vest. isis is claiming responsibility for this because they say this is a shiite muslim neighborhood. the yellow flags behind me the flags of leisuhezbollah. and they are fighting with the syrian regime inside syria. isis says it was essentially retaliating. but it is important for viewers to understand this is a sillyian neighbor. caves and shops behind me. this area would have been bustling with people getting ready for the evening meal. and many are afraid that we're going to see the end of a quiet couple of years and an up tick in this sectarian violence. >> what is your take on how this works in terms of isis' reach? is that they are doing this themselves? or is this about putting out a call to anybody who wants to do anything in their name and this is hezbollah dealing with their own antifactions there? >> that is the real complication, chris. how much of this is actually being orchestrated by isis's leadership in syria and iraq? and how much is essentially the franchise effect. where anybody who feels disgruntled by hezbollah's involvement in syria can essentially launch the attacks and then claim credit in the name of isis? and the answer is we simply don't know. but what we do know is that isis is obviously really trying to sew seeds of discord across the region. it only takes a bomb like this on a soft target like this civilian area and really capitalizing on sectarian divisions that already exist in lebanon and then they start to create this chaos. and that is exactly what they are looking for. because when a vacuum exists, that is when isis steps in and takes control. and that is why people here in lebanon are so frightened that they are going to see more acts of this nature in their future. >> and we just saw a family come by holding the picture of one of their loved ones who is evidently lost in the situation. the cost is real on the ground clarissa. thank you very much for telling us about the reporting. thank you very much. here are you five things. number one, the u.s. targeting jihadi john with a drone strike in syria. the pentagon still assessing whether the mass executioner for isis was killed. there is confidence though the mission succeeded. kurdish forces declaring they have toppled isis and retaken the key iraqi city of sinjar. that could ultimately lead to the liberation of mosul. and donald trump going after his rivals in an epic 95 minute rant in iowa. mocking ben carson's story about trying to stab a friend. a secret service agent arrested in connection with child sexting. this man apparently thought he was sending illicit messages to a 14-year-old girl. but it was a delaware state trooper. and a judge has taken a child from a lesbian couple. for more visit "new day" cnn.com. it is time to meet another one of this year's top ten cnn heros. jody farley barrons lost a dear friend a single mom to cancer. she's now lifting the spirits of other moms suffering the disease. >> cancer sucks and there is not a lot of happy that goes with that. but life does still go on. and everybody has the right to be happy and have a good time and just put their cares aside even for just a few hours. >> jodi is just one of this year's top ten cnn heros. this is the last weekend you can vote for the hero you would like to see as the hero of the year. vote once a day through sunday. just when you thought donald trump could find new ways to make head lines. he goes on an epic rant in iowa sparing no one. how will this impact his run? 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>> i don't know what the next line is. i've stopped predicting. >> is donald trump -- some say hitting below the belt. >> nice play. >> thank you very much. nearly taking his belt off. have you seen this epic 95 minute rant? just one of many highlights that came as a result of this in in iowa of all places. >> from washington, david gellian. >> i'm keeping my belt on. >> thank you. you are the only one. it just bears repeating these moments from last night. it was a pretty stunning display, demonstration from donald trump. we've had two big-brained politicos on this morning. governor sununu who was just on and michael smerconish was hoon earlier. who say this will hurt trump? >> i do think this has been working for him. here is the risk that may hurt trump but we don't know. he is insulting and complaining about this man ben carson that is very well-liked. his favorable ratings are very high. he's a religious man. and when you are going after a religious man in front of religious voters in iowa, that was not a proven track record to win iowa. so you can look at that and say hey this may pose risk. however everything we've learned this year so far is that when trump goes here this is what excites his supporters. i don't know if you can find a single trump supporter to watch what he did last night and his rant and all of a sudden they are like whoa, i have new information, i no longer can support donald trump now. that doesn't seem realistic. >> that's why i'm calling them tactics. this is this is strategy. he comes at you directly. he does it with a bravado and relish that is entertaining and it's working in the polls. how the high floor, low ceiling thing issue with them. that is what he's going to have to play. when it comes to carson, i think they have a good point. how much can you talk about what he did when he was 1'4"? h if he wants to admit to horrible things why are you going to chase him? then you get to an issue like al kosta. and to many it sizes up to tth tony -- of this election. he pleads guilty to medical fraud, healthcare fraud. ben carson defends him in a letter. asks for leniency. says he stays buy him. still invests with him. and yet he says people who create fraud within the medical sphere should go to jail dpar long time. is that something that should have resonance. >> you heard earlier that this is a loyalty issue and ben carson season going to stick with his friend through and through no matter what. except that as you point out, it is as if ben carson is making a different rule for his friend than he is for everyone else because he believes that kind of crime should be punished quite harshly. i do they this inconsistency is a problem. but i don't think that is going to be a real big problem for ben carson. i don't think that peels away supporters. because i do think the idea of being loyal to a friend is one that many voters can understand. >> let's talk about what's happening this weekend. the democrats in iowa have a debate. maybe i can quickly pull up the latest washington post poll that shows the favorability of the democrats. this is among all americans. whether you see is hillary clinton has a vulnerability. her unfavorable is higher than they are favorable. not so with bernie sanders. what do you think is going to happen this weekend? >> that would be a vulnerability if tomorrow night were a general election debate. but she's 82% favorable among democrats and this is their nomination season. she enters the stage tomorrow night with only two other exerts in bernie sanders and martin o'malley way down in the policy. and she just has to go in there and do no harm. she's been rallying democrats to her side. bernie sanders has the challenge tomorrow night. he's got the get out the there and explain why he is still relevant and viable and could potentially take her down. that is the challenge tomorrow night. >> david, thank you. i brto get us moving.tein i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all, my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today. good stuff. we close out veterans week with a great one. take a look at this. >> say that again for me? >> z. >> did you say z? you did say z. okay. i wonder what letter nura will call. >> x. >> okay. x. in case you didn't know. those guesses are terrible. but they might have been intentional. she was crushing the last round of wheel of fortune? why? it looks like she was trying to throw her fellow competitors some money. >> wow. >> even on a tv game show, the spirit of service. nura's good deed was rewarded. she went on to win nearly $14,000. to her and the other veterans. thank you for your service and the families. >> did you hear pat? z? when is the last time somebody called out a x or z. >> great. it's time for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> thank you so much. 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