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program. and to confirm that iran is not building a covert bomb, this agreement ensures that inspectors will have access to suspicious sites with no more than a 24-day delay. now, i know there's been a lot of conversation about that. it is broken off into days. at the end of the day it must be a physical access -- now, would this senator prefer that they get in instantaneously? of course. could iran hide some activities relevant to nuclear weapons research? possibly. but to actually make a bomb, iran's secret activity would have to enrich the fuel for a device, and they couldn't cover that up if they had years, let asewn in a few weeks. traces of an enriched uranium or a secret plutonium program do not suddenly vanish and cannot be covered up with a little paint and asphalt. so i'm convinced under the agreement that iran cannot cheat and expect to get away with it. but on top of this unprecedented iaea inspections sustained by this deal, is the vast and little-understood world of american and allied intelligence. this senator served on the intelligence committee for six years, and now has clearances on the armed services committee. i can the state up unequivocally u.s. intelligence is good and very extensive and will overlay the iaea inspections. remember, we discovered their secret activities in the past even without the kinds of inspections put in place by this joint agreement. so if iran tries to violate its commitment, its commitment not to build nuclear weapons, and if the iaea doesn't find out, i am confident our intelligence apparatus will. well, what about the part of the joint agreement that allows the conventional arms embargo to be lifted in five years and missile technology to be lifted in eight years? i understand that it was always going to be tough to keep these restrictions in place, and i don't like it. that those restrictions cannot there. but fortunately even when the arms embargo expires, future other nations' resolutions passed and in 2014 will be in place to prohibit iran from exporting arms to terrorists and to militants. these have had some questions, albeit limited, as in the case of the u.s. navy stopping arms shipments to the huthis in yemen. these same u.n. resolutions will stay in place to block future iranian arms shipments to others. we also have nonnuclear sanctions tools we can and we must continue to use to go after that traffic in iranian arms and missiles. well, mr. president, will this agreement allow iran to continue to be a state sponsor of terrorism? yes. but they now have the capability to develop a nuclear weapon within months and still be a state sponsor of rests. -- terrorists. ideal it is in the united states' interests to not have them sponsor a nuclear terrorist. as big a danger as iran is to israel and to our ral lies, it would pale in comparison to the threat to them and to us by a nuclear armed iran. would i prefer a deal that dismantles their entire program forever and ends all of iran's bad behavior? of course i would. but how do we get a better deal that the opposition wants, if the negotiations fall apart and that is exactly what would happen if we reject this deal. iran will emerge less isolated and less constrained to build a nuclear weapon. under the deal, we keep most of the world with us. that means if the iranians cheat, they know that we can snap back the economic sanctions and cut off their old money. this agreement declares that iran will never, ever be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. if they break their agreement in 10 or 15 years, financial will be available to us at these options will be available for capability and more and better intelligence intelligence. for the things for and against the agreement, it becomes pretty obvious to me to vote in favor of the agreement. mr. president, i yield the >> the resolution has a deadline for passage of september 17. most senators have already announced their position. he still undecided. -- eight still undecided. you can watch live debate on c-span2. tonight, donald trump signs a pledge to support the eventual republican candidate. and then our interview with roger stone. and liam fox on his opposition to the iran agreement. we will have more on the nuclear agreement friday from the center of global interest rate with a panel of middle east diplomat. -- diplomats and analysts. >> this labor day weekend, three days of politics and american history. here are a few of the features for labor day monday. 10:00 a.m. eastern, a town hall event in seattle discusses be pros and cons of a data. at 6:30, a debate on how to reduce poverty between president obama and the president of the american enterprise institute. and then bill clinton and george w. bush on leadership skills. we are live all day in the nation's capital for the book festival. with programs featuring cokie roberts and joseph ellis. as well as a chance to talk to david mccullough and others. a live, three-hour conversation with lynne cheney. she will take your phone calls, e-mails, and tweets. later, on "afterwards," how families from chicago to appalachia are surviving on no income. and authors like erik loomis and others share their thoughts on social and political issues. on american history tv, saturday evening at 8:00, lectures in history, a boise state university professor explains how the fully asian chemical units -- defoliation chemical agents used in the korean and vietnam wars created damage. credit out. the 1958 national association education film addressing overcrowded schools. and monday, and interview with david rubenstein. if the completes -- to the complete schedule at c-span.org. >> today, donald trump announced his pledge to support the republican party's nominee in the general election and not to run as a third arty candidate. he made the announcement at a press briefing in trunk tower -- trump tower. this is happened our. -- this is one half hour. [applause] mr. trump: thank you very much, everybody. thank you for being here. this is some turn out. my great honor. the chairman just left, as you probably know. he has been extr. the rnc has been absolutely terrific over the last two months. that is what i have wanted. i have wanted fairness. i do not have to be treated any differently than anybody else. i just wanted fairness from the republican party. we are leading in every single hole. a new poll came out today where we are over 30%. we have actually hit numbers as high as 35% and 40%. frankly, i felt the absolute best way to win and to beat the democrats and very easily, i think, beat the democrats no matter who it is hillary or anyone else, and i think hillary will have a hard time, frankly, with what is happening getting to the starting gate. the best way is if i win the nomination and go directly against whoever they happen to put up. for that reason, i have signed the pledge. [applause] mr. trump: so i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stands and we will go out and fight hard and we will win. most importantly, we will make our country great again, because that is what it is all about. [applause] mr. trump: with that are there any questions? [indiscernible] mr. trump: this is a self-funded campaign. we have our heart and soul in it. i do not need money and i do not want money. this will be a campaign like no other, i think. i am not controlled by lobbyists or anybody. i'm controlled by the people of the country in order to make our country great again. yes, sir. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: i really got nothing. the question was, what did i get for signing the pledge? absolutely nothing, other than the assurance that i will be treated fairly. i have seen that over the last few months. they really have been very fair. no, i have no intention of changing my mind. [indiscernible] mr. trump: the big thing that has changed, and it has been obvious to all, after i announced, we went up like a rocket ship. no one said i would run and they said he will not run. i did that. the papers, in terms of the company, turned out to be spectacular. it is a great company. i built a great company. all the others turned out to be very well received. the thing that changed is the fact that i went to the number one place very quickly after i signed and after i, in this building, notified everybody that i would be running for president. the biggest thing is that i went early to number one and the rnc has treated me with great respect. that was very important. yes. no, i see no circumstances under which i would tear up that pledge. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: you don't have to be met when you're at 2%. [laughter] mr. trump: it is one of the things, that is the way life works. i like governor christie, by the way. the chairman asked if he could come up you saw him here in little while ago. i was greatly honored that he did come up, frankly. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: well, i think when you get right down to it, we are a nation that speaks english. i think while we are in this nation, we should be speaking english. that is how assimilation takes to whether people like it or not, that is how we assimilate and how we go onto to the next phase in the next stage. i am not just talking about spanish. i'm talking about from various parts of the world. that is how they will become successful. integrate. i think it is more appropriate to be speaking english. yes. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: one of the things i want to do, and i feel strongly, it is a country based on borders and our country is based on laws. when people come into the country illegally, we should not allow that. this is not from south america, this is not from mexico. it is all over the world. when people come illegally, we cannot allow that. i want people to come legally. i want very much to take care of our border because our southern border is a total mess. that has been proven. interestingly, a couple months ago when i announced, i made strong statements about the crime and the problems happening. i have been proven right and many people in this audience have actually apologized to me, which i very much appreciate. they have not done it publicly but these are minor details in one day they will. the fact is we are a nation that wants and needs borders. we are a nation that wants and needs and is based on laws. we will make sure that takes place. with that being said, i want people to come into our country legally. i want to have a big, fat, beautiful open-door. i want people of great talent to come in, for silicon valley. i want engineers and physicists. i want people with great talent to come into the united states. when people graduate from college, you can be number one from your classic harvard, or number one at yale, or the school of finance, or princeton, or stanford. immediately, if you're not a citizen of the united states, you get thrown out of the country. we want those people to stay. we want people of great talent to be in the united states, to work here, and ultimately to become citizens. i do not know enough about it to comment. was she jailed? i do not know much about it. go ahead. that is absolutely false. i win at golf, that, i can tell you. yes? well, i understand how the system works maybe better than anybody. i understand the political system and also very much a system of coming in for illegal immigrants. do not forget, if i did not bring up the subject of illegal immigration, you would not be asking the question or no one would even be talking about immigration. immigration and in particular illegal immigration, has become a big factor. a lot of bad things have happened with respect to crime since i brought it up. but if i did not bring it up, immigration would not even be a subject that we are talking about and it happens to be a very important subject. i have to say this. it can also be a very positive subject. because i believe so strongly in immigration. we have to stop illegal immigration and we have to look forward to great immigration done in a legal manner. if i did not bring it up, nobody would be talking about it. go ahead. >> [indiscernible] mr. trump: there is gridlock in congress right now and that is because there is no leadership at the top. you have to be able to lead, you have to get people into your office, go to them, anyway you want to do it. but you have to be able to lead. there is no leadership at the top and signing executive orders is not the way our country was supposed to be run. go ahead. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: i do not want to talk about that here. it is inappropriate. yes, sir, go ahead. tom brady? he is a very good friend of mine. he is a great guy, an honorable and honest guy and a truly great athlete. he is really a very good friend of mine and i just spoke to him a little while ago and he is so thrilled and happy. tom brady, i think what they have done is terrible. he has been exonerated as i understand it, because i just heard about it. i'm very happy for tom. they are having a rough year, let's face it. go ahead. in europe, they have tremendous problems. people going in and storming. it is a huge humanitarian problem. i will just say this. the united states has tremendous problems of their own. we have infrastructure that we have to fix, bridges and roads and everything is falling apart. our nation is in such trouble. that is why being a builder and a great and successful builder, i think will greatly help. we have so many of our own problems, including the wall, which we will get built. health care is a mess. look at obamacare. premiums have gone up 55%. people are saying, this is turning out to be a disaster. deductibles are through the roof. deductibles on obamacare is through the roof. we have a lot of problems and we have to take care of our vets . we have to build up our military. just the other day, the general said the army is in the worst shape in its history in terms of preparedness. for them to be in bad shape, with the way we are and the world hating us, you look at hillary clinton, and i have said, she is the worst secretary of state in the history of this country. now in all fairness, because of the agreement that is about to be finalized with iran, john kerry may very well take her place. i think that agreement is a disaster for the country, for israel, for the middle east. it will lead to nuclear proliferation. everything about it and we do not even get our prisoners back. you say, who negotiates a thing like that? that will not happen with president trump. one or two more questions. yes. you will see later. they do not want to hear it. yes, go ahead. could you stand up, please? >> [inaudible] mr. trump: all i want them to do -- yes, and say hello to roseann and greg. great people. i would say simply, i just want to be treated like everybody else. i was a big contributor. no one knows the system, but i was on the other side and i was the elite and i was the fair-haired person. once i ran, i was a little bit of an outsider. i became an outsider because i was running and i was not supposed to run. i am a businessman and people give me great credit as being a great businessman but i'm not supposed to be running for office. the fact is our countries being killed on trade by china, by japan, by mexico. i am not knocking those countries. their leaders are much much smarter than our leaders. they are absolutely killing us. china, taking our jobs, taking our money, taking our base. think of this. we owe china $1.4 trillion. and we are paying them interest. we owe japan, with all the cars coming in, the same amount. $1.4 trillion. it is like a magic act. they send the cars in, take our jobs, they do everything and we owe them money. that will not happen with me. it has been a long time. go. well, jeb bush is a very nice man. i will be honest. i think he is a nice person. i think he is a very low energy person and i do not think that is what the country needs to i . i hear he will spend a lot of money on negative advertisements on me. honestly, look, he's getting the money from special interests. he is getting the money from lobbyists and his donors. and they are making him do it because he is crashing in the polls. i do not know what will happen. if you spent $20 million or $25 million on negative ads, i do not know. i know my life will continue. i just do not know. he probably has to do that, although it would not be the way i have done it. one of the things i am most honored about is that so far, everybody that has attacked me has gone down the tubes. you have lindsey graham attack me. he was at 3% and he is now at zero. you have perry attacking me and now he is out of the race. he is at zero. rand paul attacked me. rand paul is down to less than 2% and he attacked me. jeb bush also went down, very big. i don't know. he's going to spend lobbyist money and special interest money. remember this. they have total control over jeb and hillary and everybody else who takes that money. nobody knows the system better than me. they have total control. you understand it very well because you have been covering it for a long time. those people putting up those millions of dollars have total control over your candidate. i will tell you this. nobody is putting up millions of dollars for me. i'm putting up my own money. [applause] mr. trump: in fact, i feel a little foolish. people are offering me millions and millions of dollars. when you are in first place, you can collect so much money. i keep turning them down. i feel like, am i a fool? i feel very foolish. when i was in iowa last week, i said, what do you think? a big lobbyists offered me $5 million for my campaign. i said to the crowd in iowa, a great crowd of 4000 people, i said, can i take it, and will you believe, i will not do anything, i promise you and's ready you, when i do anything. they all stood up and said, no, no, do not take it. i am the only self funder, i am putting up my own money. there have been five or six super pac's where people are forming super pac's for trump. i have nothing to do with them. you are not allowed to have anything to do at them. i do not know what they will do . if they do something, it will be nice. i do not know anything about them are in a nutshell, i am funding my own campaign and no one else's. when people advertise, and i hope the voters can see this, every negative advertisement they see about me is paid for by lobbyists and special interests. remember that. go ahead. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: our country could be doing much better. we have all bad trade agreements. an army that is not prepared. we have a military that needs help, especially in these times . we have nuclear weapons that, you look at 60 minutes, they do not even work, ok? the phones do not work. they are 40 years old. they have wires that are no good . nothing works. our country does not work. everybody wins except us. we need victories in the country. we do not have victories anymore. our country will be great again, but right now, the country has major problems. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: yes, carly. i was in favor of her being in the debate. i think she should be. i do not like the fact that there are 11 people now as i understand it. they're not getting rid of rand paul or somebody. they should because it is too many people. when you have 11, you will not hear me or other people talking, and i think that is too bad. i think 11 is a lot of people, but i was very happy she got into the debate. quite frankly, she deserves to be in the debate. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: i think maybe he is inclined not to get into the race. i think it will depend on what happens with hillary clinton. a lot of people think she will not be able to make it legally from a criminal standpoint to the starting gate. i do not know that to be true. i think it depends on what happens with her. i think if she gets out, he will get in. if she stays in, he might not. who knows? >> [inaudible] mr. trump: he is not supposed to be here. he was here. he was up in my office. he got the pledge and we are very happy about that. i told him, i said, i do not think it is appropriate for you to be here. you guys will end up saying he is endorsing trump. that would be inappropriate for him. i would suggest, frankly, i am fine with him not being here. i do not want anyone to think he is endorsing. as far as jeb is concerned, i watched him this morning on television and it is a little bit sad. don't forget, he was supposed to win. and he just does not have the energy. what he does have is a lot of money, given to him by special interests, donors, and lobbyist. i just hope if he spends money on advertisements, which he might not. i would spend money on positive ads about himself. if he knocks me, assuming people leave, and maybe they are at a point where they will not leave because they are fed up with this country, but i think they will go to people other than jeb. go ahead. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: i don't know. right now, i am interested in jobs. one thing, cnn, i should not say that, but they did a poll. number one on the economy, number one on jobs producing. i mean number one by many times. i am so intent on putting people back to work in this country. we have 93 million people that are not in the workforce right now. 93 million. when they give up looking for a job, they take him off the stats. they take him off the statistics. we have 93 million people. we have 50 million people between poverty levels and welfare and our country can be great again to we have to put people back to work. one or two more. [indiscernible] mr. trump: ok. would i bring my children into the administration? they are very capable. the answer is probably not. the second part is no longer pertinent. back there, go ahead. kanye west, i will never say bad about him. you know why? he loves trump. he goes around saying, trump is my all-time hero. he says it to everybody. so kanye west, i love him. maybe in a few years, i will have to run against him. he has been so nice to me. you people have seen because i have been a counterpuncher, i only hit people when they hit me, only. and kanye west has been so great. i would never say bad about him because he says such nice things about me. >> [inaudible] mr. trump: no, my supporters are really supporting me because i am very competent. they know i will not let china rip us off. i will not let japan rip us off. japan is devaluing the yen, very hard for caterpillar and other companies to compete against their big tractor maker. we will not let this happen anymore. you talk about a trade imbalance. they have, in japan, the biggest ships you have ever seen pouring cars into los angeles. pouring them in. i've never seen anything like it. we send them beef and they do not even want it. in this building, i have the largest bank in the world, right up in these elevators. it is a bank from china. i get along great with china and japan. mexico. i love the people of mexico. i love the hispanics. i have thousands of hispanics working for me. i have employed tens of thousands of hispanics. i have unbelievably great relations. there is a poll and i am number one with hispanics. for our country to be great, we have to be able to great -- make a great deals. we are going to be terrific. our military is going to be unbelievable. we are going to get read of -- rid of obamacare. repeal it. it is going to be out. it should have been out a long time but should never have happened. we are going to take care of our country and bring back jobs and we're going to bring back wealth to the united states so we can afford to save social security, which i will save without cuts, so we can afford to do the kind of things we have to do to make america great again. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. here is your pledge. [applause] >> [inaudible] mr. trump: somebody else wrote it. it's a bubble waiting to explode. i have been saying what they're doing in china is a bubble waiting to explode and gesture just remember something. when it's a bubble, we can't be brought down by that bubble. they've done things that caused it. we can't be brought down by that bubble. thank you, everybody. thank you. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, this is an amazing man. he is the speaker of the house of indonesia. he's here to see me. one of the most powerful men and a great man and his whole group is here to see me today and we will do great things for the united states. is that correct? >> yes. mr. trump: do they like me in indonesia? >> yes. mr. trump: speaker of the house in indonesia. thank you very much. [applause] >> on washington joure discussed the donald trump political campaign. this occurred before the pledge to support the nominee. this is just under one hour. >> joining us from new york is roger stone. strategist, veteran and nixon an administrations and former advisor to donald trump. for being with us of the we appreciate it. having me.u for host: politico reporting that there is a meeting scheduled etween donald trump and the chair of the national committee. the headline is that the want loyalty pledge signed by all the candidates. move s being viewed as a to box in donald trump. will say u think he today? >> first of all, i think it's mportant to understand why donald trump has left the option a third party candidate open. ine new york times" reported a very important piece that three of the major candidates, just behind hree trump in the polls that would be ubio, bush and walker, were engaged in talks regarding debate in the fox event that trump was in the debate. 15 or 19 states the republican bosses and establishment can keep him off primary ballot with the stroke of a pen. would only id he anticipate running as a third party candidate if he didn't get a fair shake from the republican party. the fact that he was in the fox cnn e and he'll be in the debate and the national party coming to see him today that indicates that he has which is a he wanted level playing field. the logistics f of running as a third party honesty, in all within less than 60 days trump to change his new york state voter registration in order to be ligible in a number of states part as a third candidate. actually enormously expensive and time consuming process. now.would have to start the truth is i think trump has and given he wants up nothing and strong frontrunner. sign the hat he'll pledge today. host: you called donald trump, bold, progressive and interesting. but is he presidential? is.eah, i think he i mean, he is different than your other presidents, but the have now is different than our other presidents. life figure than and i think voters are passion, his his patriotism and can-do spirit. we can build a administration and have a boom economy and have again. he's very much like ronald kennedy.nd jack is he an eccentric, on some things he is. had a number who are eccentric. greatest presidents of my lifetime were the two that of politics those being dwight eisenhower and ronald reagan. is not a career politician. he's not part of the washington system. he's not beholden to any special interests. host: when did you first meet donald trump and how long did for him? >> let's see. 1979 when d trump in i sent to new york to organize ronald mer governor reagan's campaign for president. from given a card file nancy reagan, one of those recipe box that's had index cards of the reagan's friends in new york. the people in the cards were dead and the others were those prominent but among a a card for mr. cone ixture in the legal profession and major power broker so i made appointment to see him. one of the first things i told finance to set up a committee. and he said do you know fred and donald trump. donald trump.of of the fred was one original gold water financiers. developery successful of housing in the outer burrows and built a ght substantial fortune as a line per, was a real hard conservative republican and personal friend of barry goldwater's and son donald was in on manhattan real estate. o i had the fortunate to meet them both. he joined our finance committee he was helpful to the campaign. company told us there would be a delay in phones and he made a hone call and those delays disappeared. it was very last minute effort from all over ns the new york westchester, long area, and trump lent us petitions o file the reagan y less ronald would not be on the ballot. i was founder of our irm, trump was among first clients. i handled some currency ransaction issues that pertained to his casino empire dredging permits for the bay f f.a.f a. a. in e height of his sky scrapers. host: what happened when you campaign. you said you left and he said were fired and you continued real port him what's the story? >> well "the new york times" and politico both confirmed with three separate individuals that my d confided in them decision to resign and i had letter.y resignation i have enormous affection for donald trump. to run for d him president literally since 1988 for the chamber to theerce to invite him luncheon speech. he crowd was huge and he got enormous press and i think george h.w. bush had been at the same forum two weeks before and 2400d 400 and we had about people or 2500 people. it was a smashing discuss. friends of mine very nthusiastically organized a trump for president committee the first known. but it was too early in his career. he was still focused on building his empire. 2000 i was the chairman of the exploratory looked at n which he the possibility of seeking the part nomination. e was not very impressed with george w. bush or al gore. hey were qualified for federal matching funds so it was an opportunity to run a campaign on money.people's and i'm glad to say that he did at the ard look at it conventiony national in michigan that year. 2000 he won that and run.mately did not thr three years ago, he looked again for running and he did not think much of the republican field. decided to endorse mitt romney which he regrets. think trump would have been a better candidate than mitt romney and that brings us. resigned because i didn't feel i was having the impact on the campaign that i could have. campaigns are about ssues and broad ideas and not sha and i minute tphaourb felt like i could have a rofound impact working as i have pro bono. i'm entitled to be in touch with trump. we have been friends for 35 years. he wept to my wedding when i wife and i went to two of his weddings. father a funeral funeral and mother's and wake. so i resigned. and.e is no hard feelings spoken to did ndonald trump. i think he's the only figure independence cial and guts and passion and the hands on can-do spirit to take i believe is a corrupt system. i want to get your reaction to this. ikki haley making a reference to donald trump and his approach to the voters and on the issues. here's what she had to say. >> what i will say about mr. smart s he's a businessman. during omplished a lot his career. it accomplishes nothing to get criticizes dy who you. very time someone criticizeds him he makes an attack back. my south what i want carolinaians to do. that's the part -- yesterday i think they actually were talking issues and i got excited because they were talking about policy. that's what americans want to here is policy. theyn't it want to hear how offended you. they want to know they're up to the white house who is calm and cool mad at and not get someone because they criticize them. we would really have a world war happens. host: how would you respond to that. your reaction. >> yeah, i think the american people want toughness in their president. tired of get e rolled at the negotiation table by the chinese and by the and by a number of other countries. donald trump's anger as it were a controlled anger. he does it for effect. a piece that to they wrote in the weekly standard where trump was enormous group in orange california, california, punches you mebody you punch them back only harder. that is his mantra. from the very, very tough world of manhattan real estate. real ople of manhattan the idea that trump is somehow out of control or that he does not do these things for affect idea is wrong. above all right now, we need justice. who will not be rolled by our adversaries around the world. when he leadership. all of this talk about party unity is great but george bush attacked ronald reagan and ronald reagan attacked george bush. very, very tough competitor. host: let us get to our phone calls. gary from new york outside of buffalo, good morning. caller: good morning. mr. stone, i am a democrat that happens to support donald trump. here is the way i see mr. trump's problem. his most difficult achievement will be to get the gop nomination. hehe a, which is that -- if accomplishes that, i see a tremendous amount of support for trump on a national ticket with democrats like me. what is your assessment? host: before we get roger stone's response, can i ask you questions? did you support barack obama in 2008 and 2012? caller: yes i did. host: what changed your thinking about the democratic party and moved into donald trump's camp. caller: one of the most important was the fact that like a lot of people, we are waking up to the fact that candidates are bought and sold through this campaign finance system. donald trump is a billionaire. he is financing his own campaign . as far as i know, nobody has bought him yet. i could go on with two or three other items. host: that is one of the big ones, the fact that he is funding his own campaign is a big one for you. caller: absolutely. i am sick and tired, like a lot of my friends, with candidates being bought and sold. host: thank you. roger stone. guest: i agree with gary. i think one of the mistakes analysts make is they look at the republican primary electorate as monolithic. it is not monolithic. there are all different types of republicans. trump has said a number of things that would appear to violate the republican orthodoxy, but i think he appeals to a populist conservative within the republican ranks, the same that reagan appealed to. trump is the candidate of main street, not wall street. he is not the candidate of the financial or political elite. he does have a fight on his hands for the republican nominations because the republican establishment is quaking in their boots. here is a guy that cannot be bought by the lobbyist, special interests, the billionaires, the super pac's, or the special pleaders. he is financially independent.donald trump cannot be bought and believe he cannot be bullie. it is interesting to me that each one of these candidates that has come out and attacked graham,k perry, lindsey and others, is that as soon as they attacked trump, they dropped like a stone. that tells us a lot. he has the ability to assemble the old reagan coalition in a general election, meaning the republicans as a base. a recent poll showed he is getting 79% of the republicans in a two-way race against hillary clinton. he was only trailing hillary clinton by six points, which is extraordinary. that 79% of republicans has to go to the 80's for him to win, but it is clearly headed there. he has to break out to the so-called reagan democrat, the white catholic conservative democrat, and independents. that coalition can be reassembled, but only trunk and reassemble it. host: the also has to get a fair amount of the hispanic vote. something that mitt romney failed to do in 2012. when he criticizes jeb bush for speaking in spanish, does that help or hurt if he is the nominee in trying to secure a significant portion of the hispanic vote next fall? guest: i think the key to the hispanic vote is going to be economic opportunity, job opportunity, prosperity. those who are here as legal immigrants are just as upset about illegal immigrants as all americans. trump has to make and will make an extraordinary appeal based on his ability to write this economy -- right this economy. he is a job creator. he is a businessman. he knows how to look at the bottom line. if you think there is no fact and federal government, then your smoking something. like trumpe summary with trum to streamline the government and cut out hundreds of millions if not trillions of dollars worth of waste to get the economy moving. hispanic voters want the same thing the all voters want. they want economic opportunities, jobs, a solid future for their children, good schools, safe neighborhoods. donald trump can and will appeal to hispanic voters on that basis. host: this tweet from a viewer. would you serve? guest: i do not think i am cut out for government.i will pass on the opportunity . very much like president eisenhower, trump does not intend to be an expert on every subject. what he does is he finds very good people, he gets educated, and then he hires good people, and then he supports them. this is one of the secrets to his business. he is an extra array i've for an extraordinary eye for talent. to send jack wells with the chinese, maybe we come back with a win for a change. maybe america can start winning again in a donald trump administration. host: from nebraska, then is next -- ben is next. good morning. caller: good morning. because he waser the one that watched out for the military complex. as far as reagan, he was a disaster. andot 250 marines killed, we went to hundred years before we ever knew what a trillion dollar debt was. reagan was irresponsible. when he left, he had a trillion dollar debt. there are too many stupid people in the united states. they don't even know what stupid means evidently and they vote for the wrong people and listen to all of the baloney. if you want to respond, i will listen. guest: i don't think we have ever had a perfect president. ronald reagan won the cold war, which costed hundreds of millions of dollars he restored our. confidence abroad. eisenhower was the greatest president in my lifetime. it would be hard to pick a president who did everything perfectly. ronald reagan certainly made mistakes. just a member, one man's baloney is another man's filet mignon. next. host: i would love to see a leader cut waste in the tweet.ent, from a book, two things are outlined that i think interesting. there is approximately $1 trillion sitting in federal bank accounts that every president up until barack obama has swept into the general fund. obama is the first president who has not touched those funds. before you talk about cutting social security or medicaid, let us we've all of the funds that are already in the federal hands and use them for these programs. secondarily, trump identifies in his book 122 inspector general reports about waste or fraud, which could be a savings of hundreds of millions of dollars approaching one billion. it would take someone with a sharp scalpel and someone not afraid to gore oxes. trump has the guts to take on the status quo. i have no doubt he can trim the federal budget and a way that no president has ever been able to do because he is not beholden to anybody other than the american people. in the new york times, a look at what to expect when donald trump releases his own tax proposal. it is called a things to watch for in donald trump's tax plan. ralph joining us from battle creek, michigan, on the democrat line. caller: maybe you can to me more about this deportation plan of donald trump. i hear the number is anywhere between 11 million illegal aliens. donald seems to think in his mind that there are 30 million. dispute. bit of a would be to port 30 million people -- would he do port 30 million people? would they be rounded up by police door to door and put into holding places like camps and orn run them to the border to the guatemala border or to the nicaragua border? the revoking of the citizenship. he seems to think the 14th amendment does not apply anymore. it does not apply so the birthright citizenship is not accurate or not enforced. deport -- how do por much money would it cost to hire agents to deport millions of people and tearing up families. explain to me how that would work. guest: there are at least four questions there. let us take them one at a time. there is nothing in the 14th amendment that guarantees with my citizenship. that is done statutorily. legal scholars have profound disagreements about exactly what the 14th amendment. it is absolutely clear however that el chapo, the mexican drug lord, his wife was struggled into the united states to have her baby so that baby can be an american citizen and later be eligible for all of the social services we guarantee americans. we have an epidemic of this. the cost will ultimately break us if it is not breaking is already, so it has to be dealt with. this is typical boldness by trump. in terms of expelling people, the most fundamental piece of trump's immigration reform is to seal our border. our border is porous. there are people coming over it every day. some people like jeb bush say it cannot be done. trump has built some architectural masterpieces and he says it can be done. i believe trump. how you go about deporting 11 million people? i think this is really more of a question of using our computer technology to track people. as chris christie pointed out, we can track federal express packages through drivers licenses and other databases. we can find people. the average businessperson in his country is paying a high tax rate. why should this special niche of financial operators making millions not pay? that violates the orthodoxy. party, he has hit a very important cord. the logistics of actually doing this, that is something that will have to unfold in the campaign. todaya contributor to usa and also a fox news channel analyst has a piece this morning in usa today, and i want to share a portion of what she wrote. basically, she says religious voters need to wise up. votersi think religious who take jesus christ as their personal savior believe in redemption, and they believe in change. donald trump is what he is today. he believes what he believes today. he is completely forthright about the fact that there was a time he supported abortion, but a very close friend of his late in life had a child, thought about aborting a child, did not abort that child, and now that child is thriving and is the absolute centerpiece of this family. he changed his mind. people are entitled to change their mind. ronald reagan was a divorced president. divorce is a common day thing. no american is perfect. no christian thinks any individual is perfect. i take trouble at face value in terms of what he believes today. i am not sure what she is driving at in terms of criticism butnd the pro-life issue, trump did in iowa bring a photo of his first communion. trumps have always been religious people. i will not question another man's faith. host: robert from brooklyn, new york, on the independent line. good morning. go ahead. caller: i am calling to correct a statement made by mr. stone. he said ronald reagan came from outside politics. it was governor of california became he became president. terms,yes, he served two but a majority of his life he spent as an actor and union leader. that is where he came from. two-termeing a governor of california, donald trump has run a billion-dollar , probably asrprise challenging as running the state of california. i am talking about where these individuals originate. it would be foolish to say eisenhower was not political. his politics in the army. one does not become a five-star general overnight. they still came from a discipline outside of politics. they were good at politics when they got there. i still believe eisenhower and reagan were the two greatest presidents in my lifetime. host: ralph is joining us from hartwell, georgia, on the democrats line. caller: good morning. i just want to say that i have talked to a lot of democrats in georgia, and i went to see trump in greenville. i think the democratic party is very solid with trump. it is time we get a business plan into the white house that will run our government like a business. on the immigration situation, if someone broke into your house them, wouldught you call a contractor and build a room for them to live in the rest of their life? let us do something about making this country great again. host: thanks for the call. renewed speculation on joe biden. what is your sense? will he jump in or stay on the sidelines? guest: i do not think it matters. he is in a credibly weak candidate. last time he garnered 1% and dropped out. i think he appeals to exactly the same people that hillary clinton appeals to. hillary clinton's vulnerability lies to her left, although there is not a lot of room there the way she is moving. in a matchup with elizabeth warren, she comes out on the bottom. i still think there will be another candidate for the democratic nomination. mrs. clinton is very severely damaged and getting worse every day. every day, there seems to be a new revelation, a new development regarding her e-mail scandal. watergate.ough the difference between the and and hillary clinton is hillary clinton destroyed the evidence. and did not and have brought him down. host: anthony on the republican line, good morning. caller: please let me get everything out. first i want to commend and congratulate mr. stone on being employee of the year. he is certainly disconnected from mr. trump but did it in a classy way, did it with respect, and space favorably of his former employee. i think we need more stories like this in america. on trump, you can argue with your delivery, you can argue with his sense of humor, you can argue with whatever you can argue, but you cannot argue with his poll numbers. you cannot argue with his wealth. you cannot argue with being politically correct. it is time in this country to call anchor babies for what they are, undocumented illegals. indiaina, mexico, outsourcing for what it is. that brings me to c-span. i am watching c-span all the time. i see everybody gets republican coverage, and i don't see much trump on c-span. i want to visit a challenge to c-span. back in 2008, hillary clinton went on c-span and said iowa picks corn and new hampshire picks presidents. if there is the next hillary clinton debate, i would like this to be played by c-span and see how that could be addressed. thank you. host: thank you for the call. i will let roger stone responded to your first point. clearly, if you have been watching this network over the last few months, we have been covering donald trump. we were with him in alabama and we are covering him today with a news conference at 2:00 eastern time. you can check out all of our event coverage with all of our candidates on our website c-span.org. we have been providing the most comprehensive unfiltered coverage of this campaign and will continue to do so over the next months and years. nobody else will provide you the depth and breadth of coverage that we do. i take umbrage at your one point because we have and will continue to cover donald trump and the rest of the candidates. your thoughts? guest: i appreciate the caller's sentiments. i do not believe in getting paid and then trashing your client. i think it is exceedingly unprofessional. i have not changed my views whatsoever on donald trump. i was honored to work on his book in 2000. i was honored to be the chairman of his presidential exploratory committee that year. i was very honored to work on his current book "time to get tough." i think i have a strong institutional knowledge and where he is on his issues. i think he has evolved. as i look at this crop of establishment politicians, i do not see anybody who is bold. i see people operating on the basis of polling and focus groups and careful calculations. donald trump is a man working without a net. what you see is what you get. he is completely spontaneous. he is unscripted, unhandled, unmanaged. he is the strategist in his campaign. this has always been the case. he is a voracious reader. if you have something you feel strongly about, write him a memo. keep it short and to the point. sometimes he will agree with you and sometimes he will disagree with you. there is no doubt in my mind that were he president, he would be the boss. host: let us go back to your expertise working with richard nixon and ronald reagan. this is a piece by bill kristol in the weekly standard. let me just share with you a portion of what he says. politicalld trump's appeal a cartoon version of richard nixon? the current candidates are understandably struggling with coming to group with the phenomenon of trump. none has put together the pieces as reagan did. your response. guest: i read that piece yesterday and tweeted bill kristol gets with the program. i think what he is saying is trump is a pragmatic conservative. he is not a purist. he believes we should tax hedge fund managers who are currently avoiding millions of dollars worth of taxes. trump gets no advantages.he pays an enormous amount in taxes. the average businessperson in his country is paying a high tax rate. why should this special niche of financial operators making millions not pay? that violates the orthodoxy. i went to a very nice dinner this past saturday and many people there were aghast at this idea. i think this idea will sell to the american people and populist republicans. i think it will sell in a general election. i will give you another example. he did propose in 2000 that there would be a one time surtax dedicatingr wealthy, all that money to deficit reduction. knock out the entire deficit one fell swoop, one time. that violated the public orthodoxy because he was taxing the super rich. rich.e wealthy, the super from would have owed an additional $450 million in additional taxes under his own plan. he was prepared to play it. had we done so, we would be in stronger shape today. the deficit has ballooned since that time. today, trump's proposal would not just equate or financially be possible. it was able proposal at its time -- a bold proposal at its time. he wants to do what will work. i think this comes from being in business. host: a preview of the next debate will take place in less than two weeks at the reagan presidential library in california. kathleen parker yesterday in herpes in the "washington post" telling republicans it is time to take the gloves off and go after trump. karen is next from norman, oklahoma. good morning. i keep hearing them say the women that come over and comebabies or people that over a legally have to wait five years before they can get any benefits. that is not so. all they have to do is be pregnant or get pregnant as soon as they get here. then they are available for everything. that is one reason we cannot afford to build roads and bridges and take care of our events and own people. we have to stop rewarding people .rom having baby after baby then they say they cannot afford and we have the taxpayers pay for them. host: thank you. did you want to respond to that? guest: it was more of a statement than a question but i think she put a finger on is that they would telling the trump campaign. let us take the issue of veterans health care. nobody suggested this to donald trump.did not come out of some poll or focus group. as he has moved around the country, everywhere he goes, he is besieged by veterans. they are telling him horror stories of other inability to get health care. they are very angry. they are angry at barack obama, but they are particularly angry at john mccain. he has been a member of the veterans affairs committee in the u.s. senate 30 years. 1000 veterans died waiting for medical care. the administration tried to hide that. to this day, nobody has been held responsible. is a lot like benghazi. so many screws up, some americans die, but nobody is held responsible. donald trump hit upon this issue based upon talking to average americans. were veterans health care in this country is a disgrace. does anybody think donald trump could not build the greatest veterans health care hospital system in the world? i believe he can. host: next is clipped from maryland. good morning. and yeti am a democrat, i am very excited about donald trump. i think it stands for a couple of reasons. first of all, i loathe the thought of hillary clinton. i voted democrat my entire life but i could never vote for her. i am excited about trump. may be your guest will want to comment. i read a number of articles uneducated angry white man. i have a graduate degree from an ivy league university. i have been working for 30 something years. i am not going to sit there and say i am angry. i am probably more angry at the democratic party. eight years of barack obama and office, and what do we have? we have hillary clinton as the lead nominee. i am very excited about trump. i do not take all of his rhetoric seriously. this is the politician coming out. how many politicians promise this and that and then they do not do it when they get in and face reality? i do resent the idea that because i am some kind of ignoramus supporting trump. i think he is tapping into something. i hope you can take it all the way. thank you, cliff. roger stone. guest: there is a growing trend in the mainstream media to try aslampoon trump's supporters white supremacists, rednecks, angry white males, yahoos. it is false. it is a caricature. interviewi did an with talking points memo, and about several was a premises to came forward and said positive things about trump. i have met people at across the country -- across the country who are from supporters and our college graduated. they tend to be employed, the quiet people, the forgotten americans, the silent majority. they are angry. they are angry because they do not like what is happening to america. they do not like the direction we are headed. they realize we are headed to fiscal calamity. we have a looming debt. we are falling behind militarily. inare being made a fool of trade negotiations with countries like china and mexico and others. trump sums this up saying when is the last time we won? when will america go back to winning. trumpet is a winner above all. in the real estate world, he is associated with excellent. i think he would return excellence to government. i want somebody who is looking out for the united states. who is looking out for our bottom line. trump has made himself an enormous amount of money, whether it is $9 billion or $11 billion, it is a moving target because he is a moving target. he can now make the american people rich. he can make your family rich. he can make my family rich. he can restore the american dream. opportunity will be the key to this election. i think people are ready to return to this being a prosperous and productive country. only donald trump can do that. host: in that talking points memo article, it indicated you are still advising donald trump. wanted to reconfirm that is the case. guest: that is not really what it says. it says i still talk to donald trump. we have been friends for 35 years. cordial.rsation the cornea i have no formal or informal role in his campaign. i know him uniquely. i have known him for 35 years.i have huge affection for him come and i know his strengths. i really want to educate people as to why i think, having worked closely with him, he has the potential to be a great president and save the country. i have no role in his campaign. host: the great thing about the video library is you can check many past appearances. in 1992. [video clip] >> it was here at wharton in the 1980's that the students the named the banking club the unindicted. [laughter] keptall of fame pictures of donald trump, glorified the art of deal without relatively. and michael melton. on display until one went bankrupt and the other was on his way to jail. host: that was from 1992. your comment? guest: bill clinton is a last person in the world who should talk about unindicted. anyone who read peter schweitzer's book will realize the clintons have been lining their pockets using the state department and the clinton foundation, which is a fund for grifters to enrich themselves and create a luxury travel service for themselves. secondarily, donald trump never went bankrupt. he used to bankruptcy laws in atlantic city. companies into bankruptcy, which is a completely legitimate financial technique. in all honesty, he saved himself hundreds of millions of dollars. that is the guy i want running the federal budget. somebody who is tough and smart and knows how to save money. i think it is not dumb. i think it is smart. bill clinton really is the last person in the world that should be commenting on responsibility. host: karen is next on the republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. nice to talk to you mr. stone.i am a strong supporter of donald trump .

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