those stunning numbers be come especially worrying when you consider that less than a year out from the 2024 election, from where we're currently standing right now, we not only know much more about trump's post-2020 election actions, but also about his proposed second term plans. trump has vowed to use the doj to lock up his political enemies and threaten to install thousands of loyalists throughout the federal government. recently, the ex president even doubled down on his promise to be a dictator on day one if elected. that's the true danger here. it's not just about what's happened in the past, it's about what lies ahead. as a bulwark's crystal and toulouse put it, quote, january 6th, it turns out, was a were her soul to upheaval, the far deeper insurrection that trump now -- january 6th was prologue, the election year of 2024 will be the decisive drama on the mend stage, and it's outcome is very much in doubt. let's talk about all of this with barbara f walter, the professor of political science at the university of california in san diego, and author of how civil wars start and how to stop them. professor, thank you so much for joining. i really appreciate it. i would love to start with getting your reaction to president biden's speech yesterday. what do you make of it? it was much, much needed speech. one of the surprising things for somebody who has watched american democracy since as early as 2008 and watched a decline, is the fact that americans really don't -- they haven't wanted to hear that message, they want to believe that our democracy is the greatest in the world, they want to believe that it will always be strong and that there
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