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post, they did have a meal at the white house and they talked about strategy for this re-election campaign and that the former president urged biden to empower those already in place and to further consider, if not put kind of top administration people in delaware at the re-election campaign. what will happen here? i mean, how important is it? because that kind of was the strategy of obama, and he's essentially urging biden to follow a similar framework in order to be re-elected. because he's very concerned about trump's stronghold on the gop. >> yeah, it's fascinating reporting, especially they are friendly, and biden does consult him for advice. but the fact is that obama brought this up months ago and nothing has really changed. so there's also a little bit of a competition between these two. there always has been. it's very typical, the