it, she spends some time in rehab, comes out and starts living a clean and sober life for a while, then you can begin to get traction on the new life. >> larry: did you try to get her on your show, drew? >> i'm actually involved in casting and believe people have reached out to her the last couple of years. >> larry: legally, should she have asked for appeal? this is dispute here. >> i heard lisa earlier, larry. lisa makes a good point. the reality is a lawyer is required to zealously represent the interests of that client, zealously preserve their liberty. >> larry: what if the lawyer doesn't think it's an a good idea. >> if the lawyer doesn't think -- i don't know it wasn't a good idea in this case. the truth is there was some disparity. whether you agree with what judge revel's sentence was or not, it was -- i like this judge, been in front of her numerous times and think she is a very good judge.