>> larry: did you try to get her on your show, drew? >> i'm actually involved in casting and believe people have reached out to her the last couple of years. >> larry: legally, should she have asked for appeal? this is a dispute here. >> i heard lisa earlier, larry. lisa makes a good point. the reality is a lawyer is required to zealously represent the interests of that client, zealously preserve their liberty. >> larry: what if the lawyer doesn't think it's an a good idea. >> if the lawyer doesn't think -- i don't know it wasn't a good idea in this case. the truth is there was some disparity. whether you agree with what judge revel's sentence was or not, it was -- i like this judge, been in front of her numerous times and think she is a very good judge. this was a sentence that far exceeded what a person under the normal circumstances would have been given had they not been a celebrity. >> larry: really? >> that's the truth. she violated her probation nine