would never do anything like that, right, i have a method of fighting back. that's very -- >> but you're going to do that as president? >> i'm going to do very restrained, if i use it at all, i'm going to be very restrained. i find it tremendous. it's a modern form of communication. there should be nothing it should be ashamed of. it's -- it's where it's at. >> okay. after that interview, jackie, on friday, he sent three mean tweets. i mean that is what they are. he called "the new york times" dishonest, bad coverage, highly inaccurate. as president, how do you walk that line between the sort of open communication with the public, but at the same time acting presidential? because let's not forget this comes from the candidate who threatened to multiple times open up libel laws to make it easier for him and other people to sue the media. >> well, donald trump's words have never mattered as much as they do now, as the president-elect. and it's something that he's going to have to adjust to. listen, we're in new terrain.