democrats. it doesn't matter. what matters is the results of the investigation and these are high-quality top notch professionals in the justice department. they're going to do the right thing. >> the post i'm sure you saw is also reporting the president has asked about his pardoning powers. this is something that the white house denies. but you have the post and you also have the times saying that this is the case, that he is inquiring about this. would you see any pardons as the reports say could be at least in his inquiries to aides or family or even himself, would you see that as an admission of guilt? >> absolutely. it already shows consciousness of guilt that they are looking at this issue. look at how rapidly they went from russia is a hoax to now, oh, let's look at pardons. and keep in mind you only give a pardon if someone does something wrong. so to me this shows a lot of consciousness of guilt. here's a fun fact for you. the president cannot pardon himself against an impeachment. >> do you think that there may be a possibility that the president could ultimately fire