until then don't judge this guy and smear him. where do you go ba to get back your reputation after david gergen says your classless on national tv if you incident do it. and david doesn't know he did it and david doesn't know if the women are true. there's a part of this that's the borm part of our political system. >> well, listen, sir, you're so wrong on so mp points i'm not sure where to go with this. >> if you want dab. >> that is absolutely true. it's absolutely true we do not know the truth. going for a lawsuit is only going to postpone the whole thing until after the elections. it is a transparent way to avoid the issue before the election. >> no, it's not. >> i don't think it's very honorable. i have known all sorts of people who left public life, not because they had done something wrong but because they thought there was a standard of loyalty to their party, to their white house, to their president. and they did what i think is an