shutdown is going to turn out. one thing i'm confident of, he will not be cornered into what he considers a surrender on daca. >> look, i love this beat up on the democrats, maybe they don't have a message, they're fighting and they don't know what they're doing because in november they're going to lose all their enthusiasm. that simply isn't the case. the fact is we have a president who was elected and sworn in on 1/20/17. the fact is you control the house and the senate and the white house, and you cannot get a deal done. democrats if we want to whisper in the wind and say all of a sudden november elections for red state democrats are going to be decided in january, that's not the case either. we have an amazing opportunity right now for 800,000 americans to come out of the shadows and get some certainty because who are we going to believe in? >> to bakari's point, when donald trump was a developer, i think it was back in 2013, he was very critical of president obama for the shutdown. he said a shutdown is the