of decorum on his part, and that causes people to be somewhat skeptical about the speech. >> everyone has to remember the backdrop. the government shutdown, a week away. we're a week away from another crisis. we have debt ceiling to raise. we have supplement -- emergency supplemental funding coming up, there's an incredible legislative calendar that nobody is talking about, right? and the president recognizes this, that he needs democrats in the spenate to accomplish that. otherwise -- >> i'm telling what i'm looking for that would be positive. number one, criminal justice reform. we know that jared kushner has been in there fighting for that. that is something that people could actually come together and get done. >> if van and the koch brothers agree on that -- >> van jones and newt gingrich, so listen. there's something that could happen that would be positive. on the infrastructure side, there's something that could be done a bad way, could be done a good way. that's a worthy conversation.