>> it makes sense. when you were first reporting about kelly pulling the clearance from kushner, the common sense notion is, well, that's it for kelly. it was bad on trump's family. but this informs why kelly is still there. obviously if the president is okay with it, the whole calculation changes. >> i think the president is not sure what he can't see right now. you are dealing with a lot of issues he is unfamiliar with. the situation with john kelly was quite bad several weeks ago. it has stabilized right now. i don't know that it will stabilize forever. yes, the president was not going after john kelly over this clearance issue to the contrary, he was punting to john kelly and essentially saying is you deal with this problem with my children. i don't want to. >> on to gun policy. obviously the country has been watching with rant attention about where the president will land on this. he's been in lots of different places and positions this week. that open door meeting where cameras were watching him test