emergency, but it would do essentially the same thing, taking money from one part of the government, applying it to the border wall. but we are also learning that in his meeting this afternoon with conservative leaders that he convened for this purpose, the president was noncommittal about declaring any kind of executive action. he didn't suggest it, though it was brought up by others in the room. what we're seeing here is conservatives really pressuring the president as well to do something. the shutdown has gone on for so long, they see the political damage, and they are also concerned that president trump might be tempted to compromise with democrats, granting, for example, what they call amnesty for dreamers. so a lot of people frustrated on both sides, but the president still not willing, it seems, to take that additional step either declare a national emergency or use some sort of executive action for now. anderson? >> abby phillip, a lot to cover. next to the capitol and cnn's manu raju. what are you thinking about speaker pelosi's thinking behind