how this will be measured. and i think part of the problem, as sam just pointed out is what are the two sides going to devote to this in terms of resources. is mexico going to, at some point, agree to a safe third country agreement where they're saying yes, we too can be a home for asylum seekers, not just the united states? they didn't agree to that here and on the u.s. side is the u.s. going to devote, again, as sam said, more resources toward more border agents, more immigration judges and immigration courts, better facilities that are housing asylum seekers on this side so people are not living in squalid conditions while they wait for cases to be adjudicated. nothing is clear. >> we as the united states used to be the leader on human rights and we used to be the leader on ensuring the rights of asylum seekers and refugees. at this point asylum seekers may not have the conditions they are guaranteed under international law, not to mention the conditions here in the united states. and from a macro perspective we