exchange. >> right, and i've heard that. and my response is, look, we've been thrust into sort of an unprecedented situation. the president of the united states, according to the "washington post," has made approximately 10,000 false or misleading statements since he's been president. that has put us in the position of being fact-checkers in realtime, and that frustrates the white house, frustrates his team, frustrates his supporters. but my goodness, can you imagine if we spent the last two years never fact-checking him and letting all these statements fly? we took "keeping them honest" off the screen on "ac360"? we can't do that. >> it's also an interesting thing to do -- how much do you fact-check, because there is only so much you could during a speech. you could do it all and spend all of your time just on the minutia and miss sort of bigger pictures or other issues. it's always a balance. >> i agree with that. and that was one of the challenges in writing this book, because you could go down all of these different rabbit holes and live down there for the rest of your life. and what i wanted to do is sort of take the big-picture view on