tough on the boarder or what he considering tough on the boarder to be a major part of his administration, i can understand them not knowing a lot of lower level front line officials but the acting head of customs and border patrol you would think he would know who that person is. >> absolutely. with all of his attention on the boarder, you would expect he would have heads in there of i.c.e. and department of homeland security and head of customs and border protection. we got to solve these problems. what resources do you need? we're moving them over. take care of these things. under line administration's approach has been the argument that if people suffer as immigrants, it will discourage them from immigrating. that was the base of child separation. mistreat or inflict trama on children and it will discourage immigration. so when you start from that perspective, there isn't this sense we would expect of our government in which they are doing everything possible to address these problems. they are not doing everything