no good case for afghanistan. we should have left quite some time ago. it doesn't mean we didn't go there with good intentions or there weren't bad people that needed be overthrown but not a successful war. the fact we still have people over there that are going to die for a mission that obama just basekly told us we're really not achieving. we don't have -- our goal wasn't just to have a stable relationship with afghanistan. i mean, our goal was to, you know, eradicate the taliban. we are far from that. so i think that to me i'm disappointed that we continue to have more than 60,000 troops in that country. >> bret: charles? >> obama was careful to define the role as merely blunting or decimating al-qaeda. if that is the case the goal was achieved in six months. obviously, the surge that he ordered was meant for something much largeer. the fact is that it's sort of
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