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figure out what you worked and what didn't on cyber offense and defense. >> correct. >> red team look at the penetration testing of the u.s. government networks. >> bret: for the average person out there, how serious is the cyber threat that the u.s. now faces? for private companies and the u.s. government? >> it's largeer for the private companies. where that is where most penetration is happening. >> is the u.s. good at defending? >> there is room for improvement. overall we are good -- >> the u.s. government. are we vuller inable? you hear horror stories about what could happen about the next threat could be nation
i can't tell you where it is. inside it's hard to estimate. 12-story building. maybe it's hundreds of folks or thousands. i can tell you it's output. what they are responsible for is thousands of companys compromised. sustained effort, too. this is going on for seven years. your knowledge of chinese activity -- >> the problem is largeer than just the countries in this report. there is a lot of organizatio organizations. politically motivated organization not necessarily tied to the nation state actors. >> bret: the reality of the chinese investing in one building and their arm having the secret unit, you could buy that? >> there is a lot of threats out there. a broad ranging wide swath of organizations targeting the u.s. intellectual property. >> i know it's tough to talk specifics, because some of this gets in to classified
warning label like the size of a mack truck that says you cannot smoke on this medicine or you increase your chance of breast cancer, lung cancer, heart attacked stroke. something that they stress repeatedly. i wonder if maybe that is one of the things. not a scientific study. >> bob: i don't know -- >> eric: that make sense. >> it's part of a largeer, and we talk about the cultures. i think if it stuns or if it is sugar and sodas or cigarette, the land between new york city and l.a., elitist liberal want to control. they want to control everything they do. >> greg: they bum cigarettes off you. >> andrea: they bum cigarettes but they go after the gun and the cigarettes and feel people don't eat well. this is all part of that. >> bob: we have to get out of here. you new england your mal journaf medicine" should get dana on the next commission. >> dana: i could use a side gig. >> bob: one more thing is up next.
warning label like the size of a mack truck that says you cannot smoke on this medicine or you increase your chance of breast cancer, lung cancer, heart attacked stroke. something that they stress repeatedly. i wonder if maybe that is one of the things. not a scientific study. >> bob: i don't know -- >> eric: that make sense. >> it's part of a largeer, and we talk about the cultures. i think if it stuns or if it is sugar and sodas or cigarette, the land between new york city and l.a., elitist liberal want to control. they want to control everything they do. >> greg: they bum cigarettes off you. >> andrea: they bum cigarettes but they go after the gun and the cigarettes and feel people don't eat well. this is all part of that. >> bob: we have to get out of here. you new england your mal journaf medicine" should get dana on the next commission. >> dana: i could use a side gig. >> bob: one more thing is up
no good case for afghanistan. we should have left quite some time ago. it doesn't mean we didn't go there with good intentions or there weren't bad people that needed be overthrown but not a successful war. the fact we still have people over there that are going to die for a mission that obama just basekly told us we're really not achieving. we don't have -- our goal wasn't just to have a stable relationship with afghanistan. i mean, our goal was to, you know, eradicate the taliban. we are far from that. so i think that to me i'm disappointed that we continue to have more than 60,000 troops in that country. >> bret: charles? >> obama was careful to define the role as merely blunting or decimating al-qaeda. if that is the case the goal was achieved in six months. obviously, the surge that he ordered was meant for something much largeer. the fact is that it's sort of
union said despite raising concerns over the terrorism tactics of the white house, they should not move on the nomination until all senators can assess the role of the c.i.a. and any role by bren nan himself in forture. the choice of brennan the aclu sees a largeer program. >> much of the legal architecture that the bush administration used to justify so-called war on terror is being continued by the obama administration. >> with the 6,000-page classified investigation, including the c.i.a. program did not provide ballot intelligence,be the chair of the senate intelligence committee made clear she will press for answers. i will be discussing the intelligence committee recently completed report and will ask how he would respond to the reports findings and conclusions if confirmed. the republican senator john mccain said that it's further scrutiny, especially what role he played in the so-called enhanced interrogation program. brennan's public statement
for probably $1200. it's everywhere. it's everywhere. the question is at some point do you say to yourself whether it's legal or illegal, are the police really going to spend their time chasing after these things or are they going to go after serious crime? >> andrea: the problem is, this is why i am in favor of decriminalizing small amounts is because they do in california and the prisons are flooded with the very small infractions, rather than say going after largeer infractions. >> eric: i don't think they are. i don't think the prisons are flooded. that is a misnomer. >> andrea: it's a big issue in california. 'canes is something you think -- >> dana: that is something you think. a lot of people are in jail that was made legal in washington and colorado? >> greg: you have bad people in jail. a guy goes in there because of a little infraction, you ruin his life. that is a problem. i spent time in amsterdam. i proposed to my wife there. we went around amsterdam taking pictures, because it was fun.
mosques. they know the israelis have to attack the weapons. that inethably despite the incredible scrupulousness and skill with which israel targets the attacks there is always going to be a rocket that will go awry. and then they will be able to show that on television. but it seems to me that on the largeer strategic issue, i'm not as optimistic as my colleagues are on the egyptian role. morrissey has been inciting the people against israel -- morsi has been inciting people against israel and president of turkey calling at it terrorist state. they are isolating israel rhetorically. the reason that morsi at least is talking about working on his cease-fire, is because he is worried about the congress and the united states cutting off aid, without which the government he leads will not do anything and might collapse. they're in economic chaos in that country. so it's our role, in fact, to
i'm shannon bream in washington. the big story here is the escalating conflict the middle east between israel and palestinians in gaza. tonight on special we're live on the border. the israeli air aquality continues. more than 100 palestinians have been killed. rockets from gaza continue to sore toward israel. threatening civilians. the government there says the iron dome defense system shot down half of them today. we'll see how the conflict if its in the largeer middle east picture and we will look at a day in life in a nation undersiege. growing op in addition congress to possible nomination to u.n. embass sore susan rice as the secretary of state. 97 house republicans sent a letter to the president complaining about rice's statements following the attack in the u.s. mission in libya. rice attributeed the assault to outrage over anti-muslim film despite intelligence that it was an organized terror strike. "special report" starts at 6:00 eastern from washington. now back to new york and "the five." ♪
i know you don't agree. >> bob: you're just in denial. these little pieces here and there. the strategy -- i know, but romney could not have won with three good debates. >> greg: i know what you are saying. the demos don't care about the foreign policy. >> bob: part of it. the demo is the demo. we are talking about -- >> greg: i agree, i agree, bob. conservatives have to find a way to reach out to the new demographics and explain why freedom is better than free stuff. they have to do it and do it soon. they are getting young people like eric said involved in the process. having said that, the media interspearing iinterfering in oe biggest scandals in ten years is awful. it had to have. by the way, we're armchair quarterbacking. that's what we do here. >> bob: i understand that. you have to look at the largeer picture here. if the republicans not to recognize a problem, and look at it as sandy and the rest of it is disservice to themselve