three of the most heavily taxed states. 14 in california, 9 in new york and 5 in new jersey. why would they vote for that, art? >> they may not if that's the only thing they're considering. if they're considering prosperity in the country i think they'll vote for this bill in spite of that from these people specifically. but if i were in those states getting rid of the amt will save these people in those states a lot of money as well. so it's a deduction as well as getting rid of the amt that you have to put together and make it as one item. that may be very beneficial to new yorkers, californians and people from new jersey. look at them both together. >> bill: how many democrats voted for the reagan tax cuts in 1980. >> shannon: 86 in the senate the vote was 97-3. except for paul simon. >> bill: why was that? why was it so overwhelmingly in favor, then? >> it's the right thing to do. they learned their lesson in the 84 race. we won the election in 84. winning 49 out of 50 states and all the democrats decided after that that they would work with reagan and they did work with reagan. they were brilliant, they were wonderful. gephart, kasten combined to be the 86 tax act. we dropped the highest rate
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