the dates didn't add up have much. howie: i know what it's like when you say something on the air or online. but journalists have to cover themselves saying it's not clear what this particular text is referring to. ron johnson talking about the secret society that turned out to be a joke. was he trying to use the media with this line and did he succeed? capri: he did succeed in a number of media outlets. as journalists got further into the story they recognized this was more hyperbole than actual fact. but ron johnson is a united states senator and you assume he has more information than the average bear. it forms the judgment of the media as well. emily: i didn't think it was a calculation or strategy on his behalf because it blew up.