country. mark: when did you realize you were a conservative? were you always a conservative? >> well, this is the thing, and my parents were registered democrats. i grew up in john lewis' congressional district, which was very interesting when i presented that to him, and i was sworn in with the congressional black caucus. my parents raised me with conservative values. they believed in faith, family and individual responsibility, good quality education and service to the country. i think if we start to have conversations in america not about republican or democrat, and i really think the two-party system is falling apart, if we start to talk to people on the principles and values about what makes this country so great, what enables a kid from the inner city of atlanta, georgia to be sitting here with such an incredible scholar like yourself on fox news on a sunday night? that's the american dream. that's what we fight for and what our founding fathers fought for.