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hear that pivot. no, it's not about my medicare plan, it's about obama care. and he just does it each and every time. is that a debate or is that sort of an unfair characterization or is it fair? >> it's the best thing the republicans can do. it is kind of clever, usually they are putting their head in a noose. ryan, to his credit, medicare does need to be reformed in the long-term. that's not by big beef with him, it's the cutting taxes on the 1% and slashing programs for the poor. but there's no question from the progressive side medicare's growth has to be slowed. so the idea that they are trying to go on offense and try to mud by the water enough so people aren't sure exactly where it lies, it is an interesting strategy. i think because people don't trust republicans ultimately on medicare. it will be a loser for them, but i think it's the best hand they can play. >> i'm sorry, you put democrats on defense on obama care and unfortunately we know a lot of democrats, a lot of candidates

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