catholic bishops and scale back contraceptive access. these are the same people who don't want to see abortion in america. i don't think they really understand how medicine works. >> well, they don't understand that some of us actually take birth control for migraines and other things. >> exactly. a whole host of reasons. >> very quickly, cecile, i also think this case highlights why it's so important we're paying attention at the state level. albuquerque, a great example. texas, another example. talk about that a little bit. >> you're exactly right. all these cases come from below, come from states. what we are seeing in keeping with what erin was saying about the last election, which is people are overwhelmingly support i have of women having access to health care. we just saw in virginia ken cuccinelli overwhelmingly defeated by women in that state and men who said he's too extreme. again, birth control was a major issue there. just saw a win in albuquerque. again, i spent the summer in texas where this whole set of issues about women losing access to health care became a huge political fire storm. i think it lit a fire in texas