old-fashioned politics where you're supposed to be beating up on all your opponents. i like hillary clinton, i respect hillary clinton, i disagree with her on many issues and that's what i'll be talking about. >> the democratic pollster who worked on both of barack obama's campaigns. cornell, let me start with you. one part of me says, oh, my god. i am genuinely shocked. i will. i am surprised that bernie sanders is 7 points up in a poll in new hampshire. of democratic primary voters of a poll with a good sampling size. well, it's august, super early and go back and look at it in 2011 or 2007. and rudolph giuliani is the president of the united states. as a pollster, what is your reaction to this? >> i would say curb your enthusiasm a bit. it is awfully early. you have an electorate, i was looking at the number in some of the polling from cnn that was out. you have two-thirds of the caucus electorate or the primary electorate who is still searching. not certain of their vote. and this poll could be an