really are on two different levels, though aren't they? one is building an empire for 21st century, at least an economic empire, the other is a disrupter. >> you could argue russia is on the decline and that makes them dangerous. you could argue that china is on the rise and that makes them dangerous but also potentially an opportunity. >> this is the briefing you hated more than any other? >> every year the late winter and early spring would roll around and they'd organize this briefing on capitol hill and you have two to three hours of the senior members of the president's national security team testifying before congress about all of the threats around the world and that would regularly lead to questions in the briefing about whether or not we're doing enough to protect the country, about whether or not the president adequately factored in all of these challenges. not a fun day to be in the briefing. >> maybe bring raj out. time to break the glass in case of emergency, here's raj. >> jeremy, thank you very much.