be falling all over themselves to say great things about ronald reagan. at the same time the policies are to the right of ronald reagan. >> let's bring up the policies. karen brings up a good point in. a lot of ways, a lot of issues these candidates are homogenous. are we going to see some clear delineations when it comes to policy? >> i think we are. i'm blown away that these people are not reaganesque enough. if reagan were president today i'm sure karen would be talking about how reagan is doing everything long for the economy. these candidates are trying to make the government less relevant to people's lives. >> j.p. -- >> let me just finish. if you look at romney, for instance, romney has had a very different record than perry. i think this is a great opportunity for hem to flesh it out. what is it about perry's jobs record that sets them apart from the rest of the field. how is it that romney's health care plan might have been a bad idea.