system as -- >> so the issue is the 2009 guidelines, right? >> that's the biggest thing in front of us right now. two of the biggest things in front of us. first of all, the president's direct i on this. president obama said you know campaigned, most open administration and meaning this kind of thing. all the sunshine laws and regulations would be observed. then there is a 2009 regulation regulation that goes into effect when hillary clinton becomes secretary of state which says, this is the words, much trickery for hillary. the e-mail must be preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system. that clearly did not happen. we know that didn't happen. the appropriate record keeping system did not even get these e-mails until a couple months ago. >> tell me lawrence why does this matter even democrats? why am i seeing tweets from