ground, mcchrystal said we need troops now and change the way we are fighting the war in afghanistan. reaching out to the population, helping with nation building, and i think that's where the real debate it. as many of the commanders say on the ground this is a ten-year endeavor if you want to do it right. there might not be an appetite among the politicians in this country to do it right. they might want to do it right enough that we can get out of there quickly and that might mean just a year. a big difference. some people in washington on the political side are saying we have tolerance and patience for another year to two years. the joint chiefs level i've heard people say three years. on the ground in afghanistan they say if you want to do it properly ten years. >> ten years, general? >> yeah, i think so. i was unsettled. the word in washington we have to show results on a year, year and a half and that sounds like nonsense to me. 32 million people and giant