Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240

BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson June 4, 2024 11:44:00

across the border from western ukraine — this is an area of many, the only part of ukraine that used to be part of the austro—hungarian empire, where loyalty to ukraine or the idea of ukraine, even though that's improved as a result, as an inadvertent result of the war, it's sort of less than probably in other parts of ukraine. so you have a lot of people of ethnic romanian, ethnic hungarian, ethnic polish backgrounds there. i don't want to be too gung ho about this, but, you know, to desert your country in a time of war is quite a kind of shameful thing to do in many ways, isn't it? did anybody seem to you to feel ashamed of what they'd done? it was a question obviously we put to everyone we spoke to. and i think there is a measure of, a huge measure of discomfort. there will be, i think, a sort of a reckoning or a lot

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