after that march is under threat and it's in the supreme court. >> and on top of that, here's one civil rights activist who described the situation they're in right now. ron desantis is now using the word "woke" as his southern strategy and that is hard to combat. it's shifted, this debate. >> we will be talking about this in some form or another now until the election day and i suspect after. what you heard from the president of the united states there is, yes, there's performtive politics there, but this is a president that's who's pretty comfortable in front of plaque audiences and understands how crucial it is to his overall coalition. i suspect this is going to be a conversation moving forward. it's a conversation frankly the white house wants to have. and they feel like this is something, "a," that's important to do, as woe've been talking about, as historical echos, but what it means for him going forward. and i don't think we should be surprised by some of the rhetoric from the other side, which i actually think will get more heated, and potentially more coated. >> for sure. >> and honestly, the coding is