commentator jess mcintosh and commentator john avalon. we have six minutes. here's what i want to do, fix this issue with the government imploding on its debts. >> okay. >> number two, work out a deal among democrats to get infrastructure and the domestic agenda passed. number three, figure out if there is any way that joe biden emerges from this smelling like roses. let's start with this little issue of the government defaulting on all of its debts, john. >> yeah. >> what is mitch mcconnell doing to keep that from happening? he thinks it is awful if the government doesn't pay all its debts. he said that in the past. >> that's only when republicans are in control. it is an inverse of -- you know, republicans care about deficits and debts when a democrat is president. they care mostly about a government shutdown and defoaul if a republican is president. here's the deal, the past, democrats have helped the republican raise the debt ceiling. this is a self-inflicted crisis. you cannot say this enough. no major industrialized nation in the world does this to themselves. part of the question is, will democrats will able to do this on their own as republicans