mccain or romney president would have prevented this state of affairs, obviously we can't know if that's actually the case. >> i don't recall -- and this might just be historical ignorance on my part. but i don't recall such criticism when russia invaded georgia in 2008 under president bush. >> it's a reflection of the intensity of the situation and the dislike of obama. it's politics, basically. my grandfather was born in owe des sa but that makes me as much of an expert on it as much as 95% of the people blabbing away about it. president obama is not worried about that attack from the republicans right now. he's just thinking about putin. so whatever this trip check of benghazi to syria and the ukraine they are going after him with is not what is on his mind at all. >> jeff row, you interviewed president obama on sunday. he doesn't buy into the idea