mueller interviews with a number of white house aides. significant in laying out its case. >> you have been looking oefbl a over the report. strikes you the idea they paint a picture of this campaign with ukraine. the pressure campaign as democrats call it, puts the entire electoral system at risk. puts american democracy at risk. >> right. the point this is bigger than donald trump for basically three years we've been seeing a president that has made his, made his money or made his name by flouting norms of government. right? sort of what why people actually e -- a disrupter. why many voted for the particular ed in the first place nap carries legal and historical consequences and what they're saying here and the exact line is, this repeated and pervasive threat to our democratic electoral process. they are making a historical point. >> how so?