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threat. but moscow has been signaling displeasure that washington recently green light getting ukrainian attacks on russian territory with us supplied-weapons speaking ahead of the cube and naval visit, vladimir putin warned of a possible russian response. >> easley, and you put it today in the west lai weapons to the zone of combat operations and call for the use of these weapons against our territory. then why do we not have the right to do the same? to mirror these actions? i'm not ready to say that we'll do it tomorrow, but we of course, should think about it elsewhere moscow has been stepping up tactical nuclear drills to staging exercises with neighboring belarus near the ukrainian border. >> russian tactical nukes delivered from either ground or air can level entire cities or the kremlin insists it has no plans at this stage to use the matthew chance cnn moscow. >> thanks so much for joining us. the situation room begins now happening. >> now, breaking news, hunter biden's historic guilty verdict on three felony gun charges, becoming the first child hello, to the sitting us president to face conviction. we're getting new reaction from the defense team, the special counsel, the first family, and the trump campaign plus new tails, new details are emerging from donald trump's probation interview that could weigh on judge juan merchan, sentencing decision. what trump told me officials about a firearm. he didn't turn over to police after his indictment. and what that means potentially now that he's a convicted felon also tonight secret audio recordings to taken by liberal activist are raising new questions about the neutrality of the us supreme court. justice samuel alito's comment it's about religion, are raising eyebrows. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm willing or a year in the situation room the skis, cnn breaking news the breaking news tonight, that president biden in delaware right now after a jury convicted his son, hunter biden on federal gun charges, are chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid has the latest developments of the conclusion of this historic trip president joe biden, son hunter, left federal court in wilmington, delaware today, a convicted felon, a jury of six men and six women, took less than three hours to find him guilty on three counts related to a 2018 gun purchase a few jurors spoke to cnn after court adjourned. one question, whether the case should have been brought in the first place, saying it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars, but another juror told cnn that this was a legitimate pursuit. i mean, do you think that this was a legitimate use of taxpayer resources to bring this case? >> yes. >> i do believe it, despite feeling badly for hunter and his battles with addiction, the 12 jurors agreed that they had no choice but to convict all 12 jurors. did agree that yes, he know and laying bought a gun when he was an attic or he was addicted to drugs and the jurors interviewed by cnn said politics played no role in their decision. those are inviting never really even came in to play for me. his name was only brought up one store in the trial and that's when i that's when it kind of sunk and a little bit, but you kind of put that out of your mind. >> president biden released a statement after his son's verdict saying, in part i am the president, but i am also a dad jill, and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today and i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal hunter also issued a statement after court thanking his wife and supporters saying i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community, than i am disappointed by the outcome. special counsel, david weiss made a rare statement defending the case ultimately, this case was not just about addiction, a disease that haunts families across the united states, including hunter biden's this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction this conviction comes to the possibility of a decades in prison, hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. >> but that is the upper range of sentencing possibilities. it's widely expected here that hunter biden would face something far less. one of the jurors that we spoke with today said he doesn't believe that hunter biden should go to jail at all but the decision ultimately rests with the judge and we'll find out what she decides. we're back here likely in october for sentencing. there is no date set at this point, but is expected that it will happen before election day. >> wolf ball arena, delaware for us. thank you very much. i want to go to the white house right now. that's where cnn's kayla tausche is standing by. taylor what more can you tell us about how president biden is handling this conviction? >> well, well, if we can say that president biden is handling this emotionally and with his family i'm late in-person, although the biden family has in the past sought privacy during events related to hunter's legal battles. but today, choosing a very republic show of support at the delaware air national guard, where you saw president biden hugging hunter, hugging his wife, melissa biden, and giving a kiss on the head to bone let's his toddler son to hunter and waleses toddler son, beau before hunter greeted the secret service members and many white house staff members before getting into his his own car. and leaving that scene. but this of course comes as president biden is seeking to wear two hats, one of both dad and president. and in that role president earlier in the day, he delivered remarks at a gun safety event everytown for gun safety is gun sense university where he was talking about all of the new the protections put in place by a bipartisan gun law that he and members of congress and promoted back in 2022 following the uvalde school shooting. and he was expected to announce a high volume of doj prosecution's on new gun crimes under that law, totaling more than 500. that statistic appeared in a doj press release but it did not appear in the president's remarks, the white house, when asked about why not they chose instead to point to the overarching message that president biden delivered. there. now as for what happens next, president biden has already been asked about the powers of clemency that he possesses as president and whether he would seek a pardon for his son he has said had no here's how that response came in will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? yes. >> and have you ruled pulled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> you have he was not asked about a potential commutation of a potential sentence, but the sentencing is currently expected to take place in the weeks before the election. >> wealth. >> kayla tausche at the white house for us, kayla, thank you. i want to dig deeper right now with our legal and political experts of course, khardori or former federal prosecutor, i'll start with you. what do you make of this fascinate the fascinating information we've learned at least so far from jurors about how they reached this guilty verdict. >> well, it may think it's a testament to their honesty that the president's status as our commander-in-chief apparently did not weigh into there deliberations in any serious way. i do share the view of one of the jurors who described this as a potential waste of taxpayer money but nevertheless, that juror voted to convict hunter biden, understanding evidently that it's not that person's decision to decide whether or not the case should have been brought, but it was brought the judge the evidence and reach the conclusion that i think was largely unavoidable. >> jamal, let me get your thoughts and your mouth. simmons is with us. hunter biden, of course, is not a candidate. he's just the president's son. >> so what do you think the actual political impact of this conviction could be? i don't think there's going to be that great, but political impact, most people are not going to be swayed by this because most people have had some experience with their lives as the tragedy of addiction and gone down the road of what happens if people in their families who are addicted. so on one hand, you've got the president signs and who is an addict? two substances on the other hand, you've got a former president who has been convicted of 34 counts of hiding hush money payments to as pornstar mistress to keep her from going public during the midst of a presidential campaign. they're not the same thing. i think most voters know that alyssa farah griffin is also with us. alyssa, i want you in our viewers to listen to the house speaker mike johnson's reaction earlier today to this verdict. listen to this mr. speaker, you've been saying two-tiered system of justice for some time. here's the president sayyed being convicted on three counts as that undercut your client it doesn't every case is different and clearly the evidence is overwhelming here. i don't think that's the case and the trump trials and all the charges that have and brought against couldn't have been obviously brought for political purposes. a hunter biden is a separate instance does this verdict elicit take the steam out of the republicans baseless claims about the weaponization of the us justice department of course, while it absolutely undercut said just taking a step back, we're in uncharted territory here were the same department of justice that indicted donald trump in the mar-a-lago documents case. and in the january 6 case, also just convicted the sitting president, son of a crime through a jury this is anything underscores that our justice system works without fear or favor despite the imperfections of it, it is something that works to be objective and i think it dramatically undermines this claim that it's a weaponized system. if you're an undecided voter, who'd wasn't really sure what to make of the trump conviction. you her on the one side, on the right, that this was a weapon and on the left that no. a jury of his peers found him guilty. you're seeing this and i think you're saying, oh, wait, the system does seem to work regardless of who's who the name of the person that is on trial on kirsha, you were in the courtroom. my for much of this trial, hunters, sentencing, as we know, will likely take place in the fall before the election how much time, if any, is he realistically, realistically looking at? and does he have a chance on appeal? >> look, i would think he would be looking realistically at potentially months in prison if the prosecutors decide to seek a prison term and the judge is seriously considering it that would be consistent with sort of a first-time offender in this space. i'm sure he will be arguing for a probation and he would have a good claim to probation given his history in and the uniqueness of this prosecution. but i think at the sort of the extreme he would looking at months, not not multiple years in terms of its appeal prospects. look, i do think he has a colorable appeal here based on his argument that the second amendment basically renders this prosecution unconstitutional and a prohibition it's not generally speaking, then as applied to him, unconstitutional. i have no idea how that issue will be resolved, but the supreme court has issued some very pro-gun rulings in this area. and if you were to follow the logic of the bruin decision to a t, there is a pretty good argument here that the laws under which biden was convicted are also unconstitutional as applied to him under the second amendment two, very interesting jamal or the timing of the verdict and eight, created a rather bizarre optics situation with the president biden delivering a previously scheduled speech, speech about gun safety. what just hours after his son was convicted on felony gun charges? the white house also later canceled the daily press briefing. is this a bad look for the administration? what do you think it's a bad day for the administration, but more importantly, it's a bad day for the president and for his son, but it's a bad day in a personal way, not really one about the administration and its policies. >> the president's policies aren't guns had been clear for a long time. he passed the assault weapons ban. but i just wanna go back to something we were at a minute ago with alyssa can you imagine a world where obama prosecutor, when after don junior, ivanka trump, while barak, while while donald trump was president he allowed that prosecutor to go after them, indict them, see them commit, can see them convicted, and then said he would not he would not pardon them. i can't imagine that world we all know. that's probably not the case. donald trump would i think we just lost, we just lost. that has a commitment to the rule of law that we just have never seen before. >> guard jamal standby, alyssa, the trump campaign statement reads in part, and i'm quoting now, we read it this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family. is this verdict something the trump campaign can seize on politically? what do you think? >> so i actually see this totally different than jamal does. i actually think this could be a boon for biden. it's certainly doesn't help trump. and i think this sort of this statement afterwards spoke to the fact that if anything, it proves this point that the system is not weaponized, that donald trump's own conviction was legitimate 52% of americans approve of the conviction as many is 16% approve of the trump conviction so when you start dealing in those realities, electorally, knowing donald trump's name is on the ballot, not hunter biden's. i think they're realizing that this might undercut his biggest vulnerability, which is the fact that he is the first convicted felon to be running for president then all right. >> good. point to all of you. thank you very, very much. just ahead. >> we're getting new developments that are coming in right now. >> donald trump's life as a convicted felon, including an effort defined in season outstanding firearm register to the former president. we have details on what we're learning that's coming up plus secret records go public amendment we're of the us supreme court and his wife coming under scrutiny right now for new comments. stay with us. you're in the situation room this election season, stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. and the best political team in the business follow the voters, follow the results, follow the facts follow. cnn how could anyone possibly know that every single one of these pistachios is guaranteed to be wonderful by reading, right here. wonderful pistachios are the pistachios that are wonderful. but the word wonderful on them organic soil from miracle grow has grown me the best garden i have ever had, good soil and you get a good result look at that. the broccoli was fantastic. that broccoli, i think some of them were 67 pounds with priceline vip family, you can unlock deals five times faster. you don't even have to be an actual family i'd be the dad on the de physically, it's clear that i'm the dad. >> okay. so which data is paying you can the riva support your brain health? 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>> that's right. well, if yesterday when donald trump and todd blanche met with probation officials in new york to do the pre-sentence report they went to a number of questions about where do you live, where do you spend more time? new york or florida. things like that. and it came to your new york city pistol license is suspended. there's three guns on a two were turned over to the nypd where's the third gun and they were told there's a gun in florida so new york probation officials decided that they would reach out to authorities in florida to address that. now what that means technically is that since his conviction on felony charges in new york state on may 30, donald trump has been a felon in possession of a firearm now you don't have to have that firearm on you. it just has to be somewhere where you have what they call constructive possession, where you have access to it, whether it's locked away or not. but that would be a serious violation of not just a us federal law but also florida state law for a convicted felon now, let's set that aside for a minute authority say this is a complicated defendant he lives a complicated existence. he doesn't carry weapons, he's guarded by secret service but this is a detail that they want to resolve and make sure that that gun is accounted for all right. >> good reporting. thanks very much, john, for that report. let's discuss this and get some analysis from former federal prosecutor, at least adamson and cnn senior law enforcement analyst, charles ramsey alise, could trump's admission that he

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