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"ac 360" starts now with high good friend, the hand some john good friend, the hand some john berman -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com the latest on what could be a holiday nightmare and also tonight, some people were shocked by phil robertson's views on homosexuality but maybe they shouldn't have been surprised nor should the network that suspended him. the video shows him expressing the same views three years ago. the question now is did a&e know about that when they created "duck dynasty." a story of forgiveness in the wake of tragedy. her husband was murdered in libya. her remarkable message to the libyan people, even the killers. the holiday weather that would go from deadly to surreal. depending where you live, you could see a foot of snow, be iced over or in the cellar with tornados or in parts of the east you can put on a tank top and walk outside barefoot as temperatures rise into the 70s and because one of the high-risk areas is memphis, tennessee, it could get rough not just for people but christmas packages, too. following this for us, chad myers. chad, we just presented a menu of serious whoa, so what's the latest? >> i have the tomatoes, potatoes, the rest of the menu. high pressure on one side, flooding rainfall across ohio, illinois, indiana. cutting the country in half. if you try to go from east to west and west to east, you're going to run into something. heavy snow in chicago is starting right now in oklahoma city. the sleet is coming down. we'll get this into tulsa, colombia, jefferson city, to st. louis and snow on the north side, ice on the one side and rain on the other side. there's not really anyway to get away from this. we don't expect many planes at all to be in or out of oklahoma city tomorrow because of that ice. and then the heavy snow, milwaukee right on back up even into the up of michigan but through des moines, kansas city, wichita, some spots will have a foot of new show as you mentioned and the potential for tornados. we even had a tornado on the ground today in mississippi and not that far from jackson, mississippi. 20 miles west of there. didn't hit anything except trees. that's the threat. that's the warm, moist air, the cold air never likes to mix. like oil and vinegar, they don't like to go together. they will separate at some point in time. look at the city. i know the retailers will complain how cold it is. you have to get out there and shop on sunday, 67, d.c. 73, pleasant in atlanta when i arrived today except the airport was full. i think people tried to get out early and got caught in the rest of the rush that started today. >> let's talk about the airports because with the forecast, i get the sense it may not be a happy time at the airports. >> i have that. oklahoma city, i don't think planes will get in and out. you may have to try to get to dallas and something south and drive north if you have to get into oklahoma city in the next day or two. oklahoma city, tulsa, too, could pick up an inch of ice on everything, trees, power lines, branchs and that coming down will be a mess. chicago one to two hours and dallas, about the same story. >> chad, appreciate it, although, not that much. a new videotape surfaced today showing duck d"duck dynas st phil robertson expressing the same views three years ago. a&e aren't saying whether they knew about it when they signed him and his family up for the host-watch the reality show. they suspended him after he equated homosexuality with bestiality in a gq interview and suggested african americans were happy in the old gym crow south. his suspension is amping up the culture wars and weirdness. a republican candidate compared robertson to rosa parks. last night in a statement the family said they are talking with a&e now about "duck dynasty's" future saying we cannot imagine the show going forward without our phil at the helm. look at this video from 2010. siting a bible page sage and railing against modern secular society. >> first they say there is no god, get him out of your mind. then they bow down to birds, animals and reptiles and each other and the first thing you see coming out of them is gross sexual inmorality. they are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. they are doing evil. >> phil robertson expressing firmly held views that many people do share, but many others find deeply offensive and the network finds, at least for the moment, properblematic. no comment whether that network knew about this video years ago. there is plenty to talk about with michaela angela davis and ralph reed, the president of central strategies and founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition. ralph, you say robertson's suspension is a brazen act of anti-christian bigotry. how so? >> well, i think because the reason why he was placed on suspension was because he expressed his christian faith and his belief in the bible. i mean, the allegedly offensive passage for which he was placed on suspension was simply a virtual direct quote from the book of first core renlt yins and i think if you read the totality of the interview in "gq," which i have done. it's unfair. a distortion of his views. he makes it abundantly clear that we are called as believers to love anyone, that we are not to judge anyone, that ultimately god is the one whose all of our judge and we're all sinners saved by i thought it was a very uplifting statement and while he certainly would have expressed himself in some words that i would not have used, that's why a&e has a reality show built around this family, because of the home-spun folks way in which this family expresses views. >> you said there was an uplifting statement. there was another video that came out from him a couple years ago, again, quoting the bible and a different verse and suggests that gays, again, quoting the bible are insurance length, arrogant god haters, heartless, senseless and ruthless. you know, is that expressing the same sentiment you were just mentioning before? >> well, i would have to see the full context of the statement in which he said it. you know, this is a snippet of a fuller presentation, but based on my understanding of the views of mr. robertson and the robertson family, these are people who love god, who believe that they shouldn't be judging anybody, that they are calle to love everyone and show stability and respect for everyone, even those that they disagree with, but i think what the broader culture has to do and that's why many people have risen up in the last 48 hours to defend the robertson family is the larger and broader culture has to respect the authenticity and genuineness of the faith testimony of christians and faithfully catholics and when they say they believe the bible and quote it, just sanction them, to punish them, to fire them, to mistreat them because all they have done is express that faith, i think has no place in america. >> well,y didn't fire them yet. we'll get to that in a second. what about what ralph is saying, michaela? they are saying they believe what they believe, an authentic feeling they hold. you suggested this is part of a bigger civil war. >> i agree to a certain extend. this is very authentic. this is very true and core to their believes, but a very, very narrow sequestered fundamental belief system, right? and so when you are part of the popular culture, you have to now negotiate that. so that's what we're seeing happening, and i feel like this great divide is finding itself in a lot of popular culture conversations, and this is just another one of them, and i find very little upliftment in saying that someone's lifestyle would morph into bestiality or that they insight evil. these are very, very hurtful words. they are not just doctrine and there is a lot of things in the bible, right? snakes talk in the bible. people live in whales in the people. people have 300 wives in the bible. there are a lot of things in this great book that can be used to substannuate slavery. the bible was used to keep people in slave. when we only use that as the foundation of making an argument, there are a lot of holes in that, and this is probably the first time that this family has ever really had to know gay people or be in touch with black people or other -- they have been very removed, and now that they are part of the larger conversation, we have to both be in conversation with each other, right? they have to hear what the larger population has to say in response to these very, very specific religious believes, and if this were fundamental muslims, if this was the shaws is of hollywood really protesting their religious believes, would the right be so in defense of them? if we heard them, you know, quote the koran. this equality freedom thing works in a lot of ways. >> you know, sarah palin ralph, said that a lot of the critics of the robertsons, called them intollerant haters. do people with concerns, do they have to be intolerant haters, or as you say anti-christian bigotry? is there that big of a divide? >> it's interesting and perplexing the profits of toll rants who say we have been to be tolerant don't show the same level of tolerance for those who believe in orthodox, christian or faith for example, and i would say that this is a teachable and clarifying moment for american society. are we going to say, are we really saying that those who believe that the bible is the word of god and who believe that it is the pattern on which they ought to order their lives, not in judging anybody else but how they order their lives, are we going to say that is if so facto? i don't think we are. there is a reason 14 million people are watching this show every week. there is a reason why they get higher ratings every week than the "breaking bad" season finally had. there is a reason a&e wanted this show, because people are hungering for a sense of meaning and purpose, and i would just say with all due respect about all the things that are in the bible, we're not talking about dietary laws out of the old testament. we're not talking about old testament law. we're talking about the new testament statement about how one ought to order their lives, and we should be clear that phil robertson answered a direct question. he was asked what do you believe sin is, and he simply quoted scripture. if that's viewed as hateful, god all mighty is hateful. >> what if he does come back? >> i don't think people watch that show to hear his views on scripture. they are unique authentic american characters but when you bring in believes that can hurt others, that's not why we're tuning into "duck dynasty." we have to be clear what is happening in reality television and his home and church. what comes out in a public form in media, now he has to negotiate how that makes other people feel. i think we need to be clear what that show is about. it's not about his christian views, and that's not why we watch. they are very entertaining. i really agree with him, this is a teachable moment on both sides. can we not draw such hard lines and listen to each other and understand there are all kinds of people with all kinds of views coming from all different kinds of backgrounds that have to work together. this family hasn't really had to be in a cosmo poll tin multi thinking world and now they are. >> thank you. >> thank you. there is more happening tonight, next, what some see as president obama's terrible, horrible, no bad very bad year, he doesn't see it that way. we have a reality check. also, a child grows up fatherless, a mother loses the love of her life and somehow forgives the people responsible for her heartache. the conversation with the remarkable anita smith ahead on "360." how are things with the new guy? 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