irresponsibly and i think, i think we could -- we could reasonably assume that. yes, i think it could be done from a minority government. i would much prefer frankly a majority one and some of the decisions would be tough indeed and that's has to take. that's hard to take. >> and our reporter graham satchel has -- news of what is going on in south hampton, where government minister john denim is defending his seat, 8.5,000 for labor. a yes, he's got a very comfortable majority here, about 8,400, would take a swing of 10.5% for the tories for him to lose that seat. we have been watching the votes being counted. they have counted them twice and in the officially a recount and the officer in the happy and i think they may have sneaked home but it is chose. about 100, maybe 150 votes maybe less than that. and the results haven't yet bone offered to the candidates and we play get an official recount here and he was targeted by the conservatives and cameron was here in south hampton and possible decapitation strategy to get rid of sitting ministers, and it looks like john dunn play hold this but it is extraordinary close and his majority of more than 8,000 will be obliterate fd he does. >> this is one of the safest if indeed the safest seat for labor in the southeast, isn't it? we have two seats here. south hampton and we have a sea of blue and yellow around us but in the city center, both mayber held its target seats, 10 -- 199 for the torries, and this south hampton and we don't have a result, but it looks like john denim may have just sneaked home. >> thank you so much. and we'll hear news of that but now we go to wild forest in worchester, and where this famous candidate, and i say famous, he's one fert future independents and he stuck it out and fighting to save kidman to the hospital. >> 18,793. [cheering] >> harold gordon clifford, british national party, 1,120. knowles, nickal,er -- labour party knt candidate, 3,298. and the independent unity and health concern, 16,150. and -- rent, michael, james, william, and u.k. independence party, and 1,498. and there were 135 rejected ballot papers. >> this ising a interesting result because this is tale war has been an independent who cut a sway in the house of commons, and was much admired for dealing with the problems of getting him in the hospital. and since 2001 has been defeated now. by the conservatives and -- a swing not particularly meaningful from him to the conservatives of 7.4%. and they mark gagne, the former head fund -- members of the jury fund manager, takes wild forest -- in worchester. >> let's look at the map of the u.k. as it was and then i'll just change it so you could see the new colors and then we could see the feigns flashing seats where there has been a change of ownership. the interesting thing, we heard that people say there's in uniform swing. we could put up uniform swings and the parties will take seats either side in the most dramatic way and seats are very, very hard to predict. we could be at this for hours without being sure of the actual final destination of this election. so just to take the liberal democrats and conservative swing here nationally and take a look at the swing which is 1.4% to the conservatives since last time and a bit of an increase to the conservatives and nationally against the liberal democrats. if i now color in the seats as they have been wog won and lost, you'll see something quite remarkable here. you could see for a start that the conservatives 1.4% swing and winning down here and winning down here. and montgomery and right down the far end. and newton abbott, they're winning here, way-out performing the national swing that we got for them. and if it is a 1.5% swing, roughly to the conservatives, how on earth are the liberal democrats taking east born or holding eastly, it is fascinating to see the results coming in but you keep getting a swing figure and then you find a seat miles away from the central pivot that goes exactly the way you don't expect. david? >> thank you so much, jeremy. i said, several hours ago that we were going to put the results on the face of big ben or the tire of big ben. and it is -- it is seven minutes past four in the morning and here is the election results and as seen if i was standing there outside the house of commons and parliament. there's the winning line the white stripe and look how way down we are before we reach the conservatives first on 158th and labor on 123. and then another long pause. we come to the democrats and they barely show on the bottom of big ben there. it is just as well we went to that because it'll soon be dawn and it won't show, will it? >> and it won't -- it is very smart. i wish there were crowds cheering and the key thing is, are they going to get to the line. and in the tonight they're not going to get to the line and will they get to the line tomorrow. will anybody get 326. doesn't look like it is going to be a hung parliament without shadow of a tout, wouldn't i say? >> i have a list here of torre misses and they were on the list of 116 and there's number 11 and 12 and 29 and 30, and you go on. >> and then they make gains where you wouldn't expect it. >> not many, but three and i got hair wrods and carlike lyle that were way outside and there aren't quite enough. and the torry leadership i think on the basis of what they're hearing in a moment will feel they have a moral case and their buildings are for a moral case that say cameron should be prime minister and wonder whether cases could be coming in parliament. >> we're past the halfway mark. this is a marathon, 330 have now been declared and 320 to go. and should say 319, bay there's one seat that is not very -- voting for another three weeks because of the death of one of the u.k. candidates in yorkshire. and the cameron car is now on its way to london. and -- he'll go down to the conservative party headquarters. and no doubt, sitting it out there and waiting to see what happens. don't you love pictures of cars? cars going down motor ways. and i remember when in the old days before they used helicopters on these things, he came down from heighten with wilson in a car down behind him and next morning, i said to him, as you watch the dawn come up, did you think you know? he looked at me and and said bonkers, it is sound asleep and watching the dawn until. >> this is a journey that cameron must have taken many times in his head and when he was doing it, he would hope that he would be celebrating in the baksaying i'm home and dry. and i suspect he's worrying actually now about quite how he does it and the scale of task that will face him if indeed he does move in. >> and vernon knows him. how do you think he'll react, what do you think he's thinking? >> he'll react with great calm. >> it is the great problem. >> how do you know he's calm? >> he's reflective and calm person and i knew him well as an undergraduate of course and i complaint in touch with him since, the problem of running a minority government, in these difficult economic circumstances is of course very great and it is -- it'll test all of his resources to succeed in that task i think. >> and let's join michael crick who is -- somewhere or other, i can't find him on my pictures here but he's with ed bowls or was with ed bowls, i don't know if he's with him now. michael. yes, david, i'm at the town in the outwood which is the new constituency and bulls is trying to get reelected. it is looking very quiet here. we could head for the dramatic results of the night and the conservatives need a swing of 10.5%. and there's a lot of talk about how this could go, to a recount, if you look at mr. bulls and his entourage, and they're looking nervous and grim, and -- a senior figure i spoke to in the conservative campaign thinks they may have narrowly won here, and but that, there's a wide expectation that -- that we will probably be going through a recount here. and mr. bulls of course, a close ali of gordon brown and somebody who is likely to be in tight cop tension for the labor leadership should mr. brown step depoup. and of course, if he was to lose the seat, and that would not be possible. >> michael, thank you so much indeed. we'll hang on to this and see what happens. we'll come back and two asian women, one for labor and one for the conservatives and mack mud. >> and i mean, the ladywood and witen. and -- a labor hold that wasn't birmingham. it is fascinating news about -- about ed bulls and i don't know what we maid make of that, we shall see and while we wait for it, let's go to the vote and join an true neil. >> thanks, and the party sitting out here and the bar is still a there's journalists around as you would expect, let's speak to a couple of them. let's talk about the story that never happened, and the surge and they had the debate and they were picked up by the journalists and they got support of guardian and nourp. what went wrong? >> i think what happened is working class left wing britains have just been terrified by the prospects of a torry government and the foling memory wheelt press and the sun and the sunday times and the telegraph express and the mail all been saying vote cameron. and there are seats, both memories of britain what torii government. >> why didn't they vote? >> you told them to vote dem. >> and you can write editorials and there's a strong body of journalists. if you want to stop the tory's you vote labor. >> they're not doing well. >> and, possibly one of the worst results in the living memory. even before you were born. >> look any party going to a election under gordon brown and winning a seat is doing well. and far better than expected. gordon brown lost the election and the people have rebutted the dems and yeah, they get to form the government. it is a you'reuous night. the torys are are you luct tant to say they won and the lib dems have been squeezed out. what are we waiting for? it is a dull process. and -- in previous years, you said, we waited up for -- what are we going to say? >> we waited for ed bulls. and we will see. we will see. >> that's why we're still here. >> what is the moral authority by which gordon brown forms a government? >> none. >> but we agree. >> and who does have the moral authority? this is a strangest election i have ever seen. it is really strange. at 4:00 and no one knows. >> if you were david cameron, would you want to form a minority government, and you have a sovereign debt crisis and the worst cuts in memory. >> why not share the unpopularity and find people to share the blame. i form a coalition with all of them. it is grim. >> and he's coming out for a national government. and there's not a lot. the few we have put them in. >> could you be minister for fun? >> why not? >> let's go and speak to stars of the apprentice. tim campbell and sigh ra camps. >> what do you think of this business, where hundreds of people and maybe thousands wanted to vote in the democracy and they couldn't do it. it is ridiculous, and you hear stories about hackney and people are taking the time and understanding how important it is. particularry with how wide open. we got to do massive investigation of what happened in the system and people have been fights on the streets and want to escape. >> yes. >> this is what is going on. >> and what do you make of this? >> what is fascinating to me and a lot of people in the country are employed by the public sector and they can't on election night, get people to come in and vote, and that's -- that's just showing that this whole ministry of paper clips and pushing paper around is rids includes. >> you got to vote. >> you got to vote. >> and we all got to vote and let's go back to the studio. david? >> and thank you so much. >> well now, and we have -- we have, i'm just looking at result from south perk shir and labor held on to that and s.m.p. in second place and gordon banks and been -- been there since 2005. and -- and annabel ewing, for the s.m.t. in second place and the olde old seat. and we'll go, with -- and talk to shaun lloyd and let's first, hear from alex sam mongs with jeremy paxen. >> and alex samen, that was about your top target wasn't it? and why do you fail to take it and made other preeshable inroads. >> good morning, gentlemen. >> i think we could say we fallen a few short, for our target of 20 seats and on the other hand, we have achieved the highest part of the vote in a westminster election and have substantially increased the imagine orts over the seats we held and i know you'll want to know these things as well, gentlemen. >> and i would say this, just wondering about the impact of your advice to english voters to vote lib dem, that worked well too didn't it? >> i didn't actually give that advice and my argument to english voters was it would be a good idea to vote to deny the conservative party an overall majority, since i think a balanced parliament would be a better prospect than a tory majority. >> the current situation is there's no one with a mandate to be in charge of this country, i mean, is this what you call a good healthy balanced government? i been running the government for the last three years and i play say -- may say so, it is more stable than the majority government has been running and we're seeing a dramatic diff vergeance again between the voting partners and the border and what is lapping in scotland and that question is going to -- to dominate and forced election politician in scotland and because i'm not the conservative party and managed to get an overall majority. >> i don't want to intrude on your natural reticence but i wonder if you want to give advice on the best kind of arrangement. lip dem and labor lib dem and what -- what from your vantage point seems a wise thing to do? >> i'll tell you what you'll do. we'll see the final results and deploy a voting strand and work substantially increase votes and the best -- interests of the scottish people and if we can we'll keep cards pretty close to our chest. >> and thank you so much. and david. >> and about to have the declaration and the wind in the south and labor held with the majority of 1,500 and the coffins are brought back from afghanistan is in the constituency and they line the coffins they come through. and we'll get this swinden result, and -- apparently we can't hear. i can't imagine why. i hope we were going to see it. instead we have -- the prime minister's many and landing at stan stead. apparently we can go there. as his plane touches down let's go to swen din south. >> and the member of parliament. and do hereby -- here by give notice and the number of votes at the election is as follows. and robert james buckland, and the conservative party candidate, and 19,and 687. >> and -- and evans independent, 160. and damen john houten, liberal democrats 8,305. and allistair james kirk, the christian party, 176. and -- jennifer ann miles, the greek party, 619. and -- 15 smell grove and the labour party candidate and 16,1 03 about. and robin, and -- >> u.k. dependence party, 2 strgs 029. and the number -- >> and swinden south. and from ann mel grove and 2005, and telephones a parliamentary private sector to gordon brown. so the conservatives now have -- 42 gains so far. nick? >> it is a lot of gains and it is worth remembering this, we spent the whole evening, haven't we? , but it is uncertain but it is worth remembering they're making gains and significant swings to them and they're on a scale that may be in line with or slightly more than margaret thatcher got in 1979 and they started with a vast electoral mountain. and they have not gotten the summit. >> and the important thing says, they have beaten labor. and in a fistfight between the two of them. if this was, if nothing else existed, they won. >> exactly that. over labor. >> the difficulty they in this situation, and we don't know what their vote share will end up being and it may be about as low as tony blair had in 00 and he was the lowest with the share. emily what do you got for us? >> it is the natural picture leaves you scratching with your head -- your head and the local irs coming through and this will be the election very much fought by constituency and for example red car, and this is where the chorus shut down, did that put people off labor? and the minister general out now and she loost it, look at the swing too and the dems, a really mighty swing to get labor out and peter what do you make of that one? >> this is extraordinary, and it may be the biggest swing this evening and between the three main parties and -- another -- the rural democrats have been been hoping and they could fake red car and people like me look at the numbers and say you must be joking. seriously, they have done it. >> i'm going to show you another one. ashfield which was the seat of jeff hun and glory who tony blair found to be the favorite tv presenter took that on him but it was a narrow miss. and jeff hun pushed out of the party in trying to unseat gordon brown a few months earlier. >> we look at the swing figure and 17% for liberal democrattings and people, people of my generation remember that ashfield was the famous labor loss in the election in the mid 70's after markham went to brussels to aid jenkins. it looks to me as the people perhaps apply to other places don't like people being foisted on them as celebrity, or seeing somebody to go off to mick more money elsewhere. you see here, and the democrats and yet, and yet, mayber held rochdale which should be easy and we hear labor play retake chesterfield and it is a very, very patchy night and these local fans are kicking in, like i have never seen in a general election before. and the lib dems, you could imagine arguing even with that huge swing, they're still in second place has been the argument all along. >> thanks emily. straud, conservative gain and labor to conservatives and dowd did you doly south and all over the shop and 9.5%. and the conservative gain bringing ham ghoul and 9.8% and 9.5 and the other ones and colby, and another conservative gain the steel town and swing, and -- 3.4%. and -- and northampton south, and a swing here, much bigger. and swing of 9.6%. and we're getting news now of another bit of bad news for the liberal democrats losing oxford west and having done very big population there and the conservatives have gained, oxford west and bing from harris. and another blow for them. evan harris is a rather famous m.p. and refused euthanasia and a doctor before, and outspoken representative of the junior b.m.a. and fought very hard for his causes in the house of commons, wasn't popular with his party leadership and was independent and feisty member of parliament and deeply disappointed to lose the seat. we missed join -- john who is with nick cleg and perhaps has news of the liberal democrat mood or state of mind. and -- >> well, you know, that -- the evan harris will be a very big blow as yet and nick cleg has said nothing. he arrived five minutes ago with his wife and cased the hall and had a very long talk with a returning officer and have to say he's looking his usual relaxed self. i like to think his handlers were as relaxed but they're not. a lot of vitter -- jittery atmosphere around him. he's gone to a private room to take stock of gains a losses and a 210 -- on the tory's list and yet, chris hun does better and we see evan harris is gone and very unearn certain. >> and luton south, and le can't fail to say what happened. >> and the returning officer and an election to return and serve if parliament and the constituency and -- held on the sixth day of may 2010 do here by give notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate at said election is as follows. tony blakey. and british national party and 1,299. and slaudry, independent 130. and joe hall, independent 264. >> and -- nigel paul hudd