things, that the government treats things, too many things are classified and too many things or classified at a high-level. so expect them to kind of use that line of attack, doesn't mean that he didn't break the law? the letter of the law doesn't account for overclassification but it is a kind of thing that a jury could be swayed by. you know, if a jury finds that yes, donald trump took a classified document, but say it had already been widely reported in the news, it's not as compelling an argument that he destroy national security, so that is one thing. and then he's going to try to show that the classification itself was not direct, some of the documents were not directly related to, you know, sensitive defense information, which is the wording in this statute. >> charles, what do you think of all of this? because we should remember that this is taking place in florida, with aileen cannon, a very trump friendly judge and a potentially trump friendly jury. >> it is a very interesting legal strategy for them to employ at this point because what they are attempting to argue is no harm no foul as katie just talked about, they are going to set up a defense that says these documents were