it's difficult because there is protection for objectionable speech, could be lies, could be hate. like i say, we're way past that if you're able to prove it in court as i always mention legally people are presummed innocent but the case is about that. i want to play something that's gotten a lot of notice, which is this sheriff discussing all of this, of course, this is a sheriff who has law enforcement obligations but seen at a rally against as you mentioned some of the pandemic safety rules. take a look. >> the brothers had ties to militia groups and seen at local demonstrations including this rally and protest of governor whitmer's stay-at-home order held last may. you can see william null on stage alongside the sheriff, a guest speaker at the event. >> a lot of people are angry with the governor, and they want her arrested. so are they trying to arrest or a kidnap attempt? in michigan if it's a felony, you can make a felony arrest.