the british, etcetera, we deprived a lot of people of their lives. you say in the piece in all shakira lost 16 family members to what locals called the, quote, american war. raids. air strikes. either from the u.s. military or their afghan government allies. that is astonishing. >> it is. even for me. i've been covering this conflict for a long time and i did a house-to-house survey to try to understand how representative shakira's story was and i found that on average families lost in that area of heldman province between 10 to 12 members of their families over the last two decades. this isn't a single incident like an air strike. shakira lost 16 members of her family 13 or 14 different incidents and having to relive the trauma of losing a loved one. >> and being told we are from america and here to save you. you discussed limitations on women's right in rural parts of