the self proclaimed proud perpetrators of this attack on the westboro baptist church was the hacker group that calls itself anonymous n. the end the westboro folks decided not to show up for the people killed at sandy hook. anonymous continues to run a fake facebook account dedicated to the group called the official westboro baptist facebook page y'all. marilyn manson anonymous and captain crunch. the cover photo reads god loves cats. this n small part is what anonymous does. anonymous is a loose collective of anonymous vigilante hackers from across the globe and what they do is retaliate against pretty much anybody they don't like for any reason and do it on their own, often crude but usually pretty effective terms. in 2011 during the arab spring protests, anonymous took responsibility for hacking several government websites for the tunisian government. they hacked them in support of the arab spring protesters. in the past anonymous has shut down big, well-protected corporate websites like paypal and visa and mastercard and those hacks are not easy to do. after members of a local clan group, a local kkk group, threatened protesters in ferguson missouri a few months ago, anonymous launched attacks against a klan affiliated website in to twitter accounts affiliated with the klan announcing "do not be afraid we are here for you and we will protect and serve you. we have the law now." agree with their cause du jour or not, anonymous does it their own way. anonymous now appears to have aligned itself in support of the victims of the "charlie hebdo" massacre in france. on friday's show we reported that anonymous posted on-line this grainy spooky video threatening that in retaliation for the terrorist attacks in france anonymous would basically destroy the on-line presence the web presence and social media presence of the terrorist groups responsible for the french attacks. this video had the guy wearing the fox mask which was a symbol of anonymous. it shows the guy acting out this monologue even though you can't see his face because he has the mask. he makes threats against al qaeda and a computerized voice to make the threat. the video they released on friday the voice they used in the video was speaking french. french language video. that was released on friday. now, anonymous released a new, much slicker version, as you can see, of the same threat. this time the guy wearing the mask is speaking english. the video is much less grainy. it is just as spooky has higher production values and in fact the part where the guy talks is proceeded by a long montage of moving images about the response in france to the terrorist attacks there. that said by the time you get to the end of the message it is basically the same. like the earlier video it ends with a threat against the terrorist groups. >>ny any organizations linked to those terrorist attack a's should expect massive reactions from anonymous. we are dragging you down. we will find you and not leave you any rest. >> after releasing that video, anonymous posted on-line a list of 70 twitter accounts which they basically invited their members and their followers to target. f alleged links to terrorism. they released a shorter list of websites with basically the same implied message to their followers. anonymous always described as a loosely organized collector of hackers around the world. it seems part of the way they are mounting this attack on terrorist groups in revenge for the french attacks is they have posted this list not just the twitter accounts but those websites posting that list and essentially pointing their own members and followers at that list of websites so that their own followers and members go after those websites and shut them down. just before we went to air, a bunch of websites on that list not all of them but a bunch did seem to be down. either they time out when you try to go to them or looks like their servers have been overwhemed, which is one of the most simple ways hackers take down websites on-line. one particular website appears to have been singled out for special treatment by anonymous. that website didn't just get a denial of service attack today. they got all of their would be viewers redirected to duck duck go. it has been described as being an on-line hub specifically for french islamic extremists. that may be why they received this special hacking attention from anonymous. that hack appears to have stayed up all day. a little vigilante justice operating around this story now. or that implies. this hack right, this anonymous attack on terrorist groups and their operations on-line, this is territory where isis and al qaeda and these other groups they are targeting are pretty well versed. this isn't a one-sided fight. it was a strange story that happened in albuquerque, new mexico, over the christmas break. it happened on christmas eve, first reported on christmas day. it seemed like a funny story at the time it happened but suddenly today the story became more relevant and less funny. something that happened on christmas eve to the website of the albuquerque news journal newspaper. website got hacked by somebody who was apparently an isis sympathizer and claimed to represent the isis terrorist group. why did they attack the albuquerque news journal? no idea, no explanation. that was part of what was funny about it. why that paper among all of the papers in the world? that was on christmas eve. they hijacked an article on the albuquerque journal news website and replaced it with this one. christmas will never be merry any longer. which is ridiculous. then they posted stuff like this you'll see no mercy infidels. we are already here in your pcs in each house and each office. with allah's permission we begin with can albuquerque. no offense to albuquerque, but why would anyone begin with albuquerque. it seems like a weird story when that happened on christmas eve. last week round two happened again. it was the same imagery as you can see. the same language. i love you isis all of that stuff. same stuff used in the attack on christmas eve, but the attack last tuesday -- i should say they also changed the banners it is the same imagery from the two attacks. same imagery on tuesday. again on tuesday, round two, the albuquerque news journal that got attacked. still nobody understands why. when we got round two, we also saw a random tv station in salisbury, maryland get attacked. wboc tv which is the cbs affiliate in salisbury, maryland. when they got the group posted this sort of weird message on christmas eve, right. in the second attack a last week, they posted a similar message a, not referencing christmas this time but a new year's message. infidels, new year will make you suffer. that was posted on the wboc tv station twitter account last week. that same message was posted on the website of the albuquerque news journal last week. i should mention even though the attackers managed to get their isis guy and the picture of the guy in the scarf, managed to get that up there again and take over the twitter accounts the way they had the first time around. when they tried to post this article on the albuquerque news journal website, they couldn't defeat the pay wall. they are able to do all of this stuff but if you want to read the article they posted called infidels, new year will make you suffer, you had to click through the consumer questionnaire on the newspaper pay wall in order to read that article. even international jihadist hacking has its technical limits and the technical limit is they can't get around the pay wall. it's weird. in some ways it is funny, funny strange as in an albuquerque newspaper and a salisbury, maryland tv station. why did they get picked? what's that about? it's also laugh outloud funny in terms of them not be being able to defeat the pay wall and the stupid messages they post. christmas will never be merry it is weird and worrying but also innate. the albuquerque newspaper and that tv station in maryland still have no idea why they were targeted, but now we know they appear to have been the warmup for the big event. because the big event happened today. at 12:30 eastern time this afternoon the twitter account for centcom was taken over by the same dumb i love isis picture of the guy with the scarf and the same banner used against the tv station and the newspaper in new mexico. for 40 minutes. whoever who hijacked the centcom twitter feed used it to post taunting messages like this to u.s. soldiers. and pictures of links that said what was classified information. as it turns out, what looked to be pentagon military plans for china and north korea turned out to be not that. for example, the map posted of potential north korean nuclear facilities turns out to be lifted from the website of the federation for american scientists. that's where they got that from not some classified pentagon database somewhere. other information is retired general officers from the united states army, including a lot of well-known retired generals. it's worrying to see a group like this posting personal information about retired generals from the u.s. army. but that's also not classified information that they somehow prized out of the pentagon's protected servers. that is publicly available if you know where to look for it. over the course of 40 minutes before the pentagon was able to get the twitter account shut down, the account posted we think, about ten tweets and they posted lots of files which they said were classified military material, but they weren't. they also uploaded two with isis propaganda videos to the centcom you tube page. by 1:10 this afternoon, the pentagon appeared to be back in control of the social media accounts. colonel steve warren a pentagon spokesman said nothing damaging to national security was posted by the group when they got their accounts hijacked. colonel warren said there is no evidence that any d.o.d. system network or computer has been compromised in any way. he said this is little more than a cyberprank. it is an annoyance but that is all it is. in no way compromises our operations. this isn't our website. this is just our account. he is right about that. this is twitter that was hacked and you tube that was hacked. this wasn't the pentagon's central servers. still it is discomforting to see the u.s. military to lose control of the you tube page and twitter account. the pentagon spent the afternoon trying to convince people the social media account they suffered wasn't a big diehl deal, nothing dangerous even if it was spooky. at the same time today, new york city officials were trying to convince the public that something else that happened in social media is a big deal and could potentially have really bad real world with consequences. >> you may have noted that a couple of notices went out department wide involving officer safety and also intelligence relating to a communication that went out late saturday on an isis twitter account. this was a message from the isis spokesman sheik adani who reiterated language that was posted in a threat in late september that said civilians, but also police officers intelligence officers and soldiers were all targets, legitimate targets, according to isil. and they were asking their followers wherever they were with to carry out those threats with whatever means they had available. >> the video that the deputy police commissioner there is discussing is a video released in september by isis. it showed the leader of the group calling on isis simple theser -- sympathizers to attack police and security officials in their own country. what happened in new york today is police drew a link between the uploading of the video, the isis stroo calling for attacks at home they drew a link between that video released in september and a number of attacks carried out against police and security forces in the weeks following that video's release. they specifically cited the hatchet attack on four new york city police officers in october, also the twin fatal attacks against soldiers in canada a little while after that and a few other incidents. they are not saying the incidents are necessarily directly connected to isis having called for attacks on police and soldiers in the west but say they are worried there is a connection. this weekend, somebody reposted the isis video from september but added footage from the killings in france. police now say given that given the resurfacing of the video and the additional stuff from france they say they are on alert that this renewed call from isis for low-level attacks in the west could be seen as a call to action. and countries around the world for that group's sympathizers. there is one other isis propaganda video that raised concerns of a different kind today. it was this one which was uploaded over the weekend via twitter. it appears to show one of the say sail atlantas from last week's attacks if france a man who killed a policewoman before attacking a kosher market shows him pledging support for isis and explaining why he did i want. nbc news has not verified when where or under what circumstances this video is taken. but in the video he assailant spouts propaganda that he seems to have printed out from a home printer, we blurred that out. he describes his attack as retaliation for isis. worryingly throw the video contains footage of this man's death, at the beginning and end, screen grabs and video from the moment after which police shot and killed that man as he left through the front door of the kosher market at the end of the hostage scene. the reason it is worrying the conclusion showing his death means he didn't upload the video himself. the video was completed by somebody else other than him after his death in order for it to be posted this weekend after he was killed. who did that? who added the death footage to that video and posted it? how did they have access to that video he made before he was killed? were they working with him all along? there remains an important question of whether or not this is an ongoing plot. french police said they are looking for six additional suspects who are linked to the perpetrators of the attacks including one who they say has been seen since the attacks driving the car that was registered to amedy coulibaly's widow who is at large and treated as a suspect in these attacks. she apparently left france and traveled to syria via spain and turkey but her car, apparently is still in france and is now being driven by somebody who french police are trying to track down. on it goes. nbc's richard engel is joining us live next from paris. the nissan rogue, with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is your imagination. 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police say they look for as many as six suspects now. >> reporter: actually those -- that information is coming from leaks. there are two reports that say french police are looking for as many as six different suspects and that one of those suspects was seen driving her mini cooper around paris somewhere. when we contacted the official spokesperson for the french prosecutor's office here in paris, they won't comment at all. france is treating this like an ongoing investigation. they clearly are looking for people over the last 24 hours france has deployed 10,000 troops and police officers nationwide. about half of them in front of jewish schools, the 700 jewish schools that are in this country. france is worried that this is an ongoing plot, that there are more suspects. that's why it has done the biggest deployment of forces since world war ii. >> wow. in terms of the police and troops being deployed, as you say the bulk to guard jewish schools, so jewish facilities. do we have any reason to believe that they have specificity in their fears as an ongoing attack that they believe jewish schools are next on the list or are they surmising it is a likely target if there is a target? >> i don't know but i think it is a fair assumption especially when you look at the past history in testimony that cherif gave himself. one of the younger brother who was involved in the "charlie hebdo" attack. when he himself spoke to judges and prosecutors when he was arrested in 2005 he said that his initial goal was to attack jewish targets in france. then you saw amedy coulibaly attack the kosher market which he had scouted out the week bmpl an employee at the kosh canner market said they noticed him there, and noticed that he wasn't one of the usual customers at the kosher market here in paris. didn't think much of it and then thought a lot more of it when he showed up with his assault rifle and started taking hostages. so it's unclear if they have specific information to indicate jewish targets but given the past behavior of this cell that seems like a fair assumption. >> the "charlie hebdo" attacks happened on wednesday, follow-on attacks happened on thursday and beyond. that is when hayat boumeddiene was named as a suspect in the attack. she was named on thursday. should we be surprised that she was able to cross an international border two days after that when she reportedly crossed over from turkey in to syria? i know you have reported from urfa. we had you on the show reporting live from urfa as a portal in to syria. should it not be surprising she was able to cross that border? >> there have been so many intelligence failures. it is obviously easy to look back in retrospect but there are many intelligence mistakes in this. first the three dead militants, i'm not sure we should call them suspects anymore. they have confessed to being involved in telephone call cans or video messages. all of these individuals were well known to authorities. yet, they were either ignored or they were under appreciated. that's one issue. then two, this is what happened with hayat boumeddiene, according to turkish officials. we don't know exactly when she left france or arrived in spain but on the 2nd which is significantly before the attacks began she arrived on the asian side -- there's two international airports in istanbul. she arrived at the asian side airport on a pegasus airlines flight, a small turkish airline. she stayed a couple of days there and made her way to urfa. all of this time nothing had happened there was no reason for the turkish authorities to particularly be following her, except that she had previous run-ins with french authorities. she had been questioned -- there are reports she was questioned for involvement with extremists here in france. the turks started to follow her. not at the request of france but thought tla there was something suspicious. they were keeping tabs on her phone, not physically because on the 8th she crosses in to syria in to a town which is very well known isis stronghold. it is absolute no man's land and they lost her because they lost her cell phone signal. they didn't have a body on her, just a casual trace on her cell phone. then after the french authorities put out their apb releasing her picture, putting it out to the public at that stage the turks got in contact with the french and said you know, we have been following this woman who's disappeared. this might be the woman you are looking for. why didn't the turks communicate this information that they lost track of who is w someone who crossed in to syria earlier to the french? should they have contacted the spanish because she was coming from madrid? there are many people who go in to turkey and there's a real problem with turkey right now with so many foreign fighters or so many extremists or so many people who go in to turkey and then just disappear. it's unclear the turks really knew where she was until she failed actually on the 9th to catch her return flight to madrid. it was on the 9th when that went out and on the 9th she missed her flight and they lost her tracking data the day before. so something fell through the cracks here. when you look back and i think when this will be investigated by the turks, by the french by a variety of authorities, they are going to see that even after a decade after 9/11 or over a decade after 9/11 which was supposed to be a time when all of the dots were going to be connected they were not connected. >> richard engel live for us in paris. thank you very much. really appreciate it. good to see you, my friend. much more ahead, including unexpected military news and some unexpectedly constructive normal news from washington, of all places. please stay with us. is tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours... and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? 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>> the biggest surprise rachel is that people aren't ware of that here. even people within the community, even those who were part of this tightly knit family of editors of "charlie hebdo." she was take en aback when i described the debate. we had a longer conversation about it, as well. she said it is one of the saddest things that i heard something indeed echoed by the widow of the chief editor. she was utterly shocked that countries were undertaking these standards and blurring out images as we have seen in england or declining to show the most offensive ones as our network standards mandate. she joined that chorus of saying that's one of the saddest parts. i think it is summed up best by caroline's thoughts on this. she said the fundamentists have won if the sensor in this way. >> in terms of your interview with the widow today, i guess i want to ask what her overall -- i guess what her overall position is right now. obviously, she's lost her beloved. she's lost -- she's lost her partner in life. it seems like she is talking -- she ended up talking to you about some other strange things that have emerged and around their relationship, ib including his family denying she was his girlfriend and some other things that have emerged since the killing. can you describe some of that to us? >> certainly. i think the most surprising twist in what she said was to remind the world that he was one of the most avid opponents of anyone who cracked down on religious freedom. he was an advocate. it was satirical of everybody and she reminded people he was in a relationship with someone from a muslim family and they stood for freedom in all forms. there wasn't in her view an anti-muslim sentiment there. that is something that critics would take issue. in terms of the spat with her family, it seems to be a personal side bar issue. she showed us pictures of the two of their relationships together, however you want to characterize it. they had been cohabitating much of the time. her child called him dad and she showed me home videos of her child doing that. she talked about their whirlwind romeo and juliet romance. and how their families didn't approve of that. no one could silence her, not politicians she worked with not the terrorists and certainly not family members. she was defiant as she was on many issues. and his legacy in the face of this terror and this attempt to suppress these images. >> ronan farrow joining us live from paris. thank you so much. his show is weekdays at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. a lot to come including as i mentioned surprising news from the u.s. military. stay with us. 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do we finally get to debate that war and how it should be waged? we have been waging that war against isis for months without making a formal decision about it in our own country. is now a good time to assess whether the effort has been successful thus far, particularly after what happened in paris. is this a good time to decide whether we should change course? joining us is senator murphy from connecticut. he has been calling for a vote to authorize strikes against isis since last summer. thank you very much for being with us. >> sure. >> do we know enough about what is happening in iraq and syria to be able to say that the pace of operations is speeding up that there's anything more intense about the way that isis is fought there? >> well, we certainly know there is significant military progress on the ground in iraq and syria. as you are reporting, increased activity over the last 24 hours. if you look back at the last 30 days you have seen progress on the ground and significant progress in pushing isil out of kobani and mount sinjar come under control of our allies. you have seen reports of tribes in western iraq expelling or beginning to take steps to expel isis. that's all good news. what is less certain is whether there is the political reform happening on the ground that is actually going to be the end of isis. that's part of the reason why congress has to have a debate about this. because we can hear reports of military progress, but unless it is accompanied by political reform, economic reform, societial reform on a place in the ground like iraq than a stalemate or momentum on our side doesn't help in the long run. that's why it is imperative to talk about this in the next several days and weeks. we are in a pivotal moment as military success is building but uncertain if there is a component of political success next to it. >> do you see a meaningful connection between the military fight against isis on the ground in iraq and syria and the international threat possessed by isis both through propaganda, prance through directly organizing foreign attacks and inspiring the fighters who we saw strike last week in france? >> i clearly think you are seeing a flow of foreign fighters back and forth in to syria and that's presenting real problems and threats to our allies in europe and the united states. it is important to recognize that individuals who carried out these attacks in paris were originally radicalized, not by isis but in coordination against the united states invasion and occupation of iraq. that's what initially brought them in to this fight. it's worth repeating that those who would call for another insertion of u.s. ground troops to fight isis would be essentially repeating the mistake that radicalized thousands of muslims across the country during our ten-year occupation of that country. i certainly think that isis poses a threat to the united states and our allies but we are living with a decade-long mistake in iraq that had ral callized thousands already, whether or not isis was present in the region. >> do you think there will be a vote in this congress sometime in this congress about authorizing what we are doing in iraq and syria and thereby subsequently debating it? >> i don't know. we took a vote at the end of last congress in the foreign relations committee and passed an authorization that did not allow ground troops in the fight, attempted to put geographic restrictions on it. you don't see any hustle in the new republican senatemajority to bring it forward. it doesn't look like the majority leader will spend the first few weeks working toward it. to many of us this is an extra constitutional conflict. we are outside of war powers act authorization. i do not believe and many others do not believe there is legal justification for proceeding without a congressional vote. every day we are not debating this is a day we are about kating our responsibility. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. >> ooh. 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