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speculators push the price of oil a little bit higher when it was $50 a barrel? isn't the progressive argument actually that what we would ideally like to see is a pretty hefty government tax on oil? and on gas as you have in europe? so that the economy gets used to more expensive, i would say more realistically priced oil. >> so aren't the koch brothers doing us a favor, lee? >> i wouldn't agree with that. speculation is healthy because it locks in prices and provides stability to the market. but i fundamentally disagree with that. i'm against fossil fuels. i don't want all of the -- >> you're against fossil fuels? >> dependent on our economy ksh-economy dependent on them. however with the surging prices you are killing the recovery. you are not only hufrting consumers at the pump. you are hurting small business. the middle class. we are talking about excessive speculation. the law passed last year had
cultural right is absolutely -- i have a theory here. whether he runs or not, he want to the own the hard right. he wants no one to his right. your thinking, eric? >> i think that's probably true. george will had this great phrase, vibrations of weirdness. and i think that summed up mike huckabee last week. in a way, i think mike huckabee did us a favor. he held up a mirror to the right wing media and shows us how crazy they have become. large portions have been consumed by this obama derangement syndrome, and he absolu absolutely, as you say, wants to own that segment. it's a very profitable segment, a very loyal segment. he's out there selling books trying to make headlines and this is what you do. this is the conversation you have. you talk about how the president of the united states may not be loyal to -- >> what percentage -- both of you, what percentage of the republican iowa caucus vote which is what he's in love with, because they're in love with him, what percentage of that have vote that shows up next year in iowa earlyç next year
he wants no one to his right. your thinking, eric? >> i think that's probably true. george will had this great phrase, vibrations of weirdness. and i think that summed up mike huckabee last week. in a way, i think mike huckabee did us a favor. he held up a mirror to the right wing media and shows us how crazy they have become. large portions have been consumed by this obama derangement syndrome, and he absolutely, as you say, wants to own that segment. it's a very profitable segment, a very loyal segment. he's out there selling books trying to make headlines and this is what you do. this is the conversation you have. you talk about how the president of the united states may not be loyal to -- >> what percentage -- both of you, what percentage of the republican iowa caucus vote which is what he's in love with, because they're in love with him, what percentage of that have vote that shows up next year in iowa early next year in that caucus will be comfortable with people who are birthers? >> i would say half.
there's always a calculated gamble in holding one, i guess the white house thought this time that they needed to manage the message on the budget? >> well, they're continuing their try angulation and credit for spending cuts that republicans say are-- shows itty-bitty and should be bigger, but look, obama as got the bully pulpit and he should use it from his point of view, to get his message across. >> jon: what about the cuts he was talking about? >> there are two reasons why the president held this news conference on monday. came the day after two editorials, one in "the washington post," one in the atlanta journal confusion critical on him. the post editorial says that the president punted on this budget request. the other reason is that according to jay carney the new white house press secretary he he was doing the press a favor by priding the president out on his, carney's first day as press secretary. >> jon: it seems that the press sort of pooh poohed the demands for more cuts, would
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