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Get charged so the criminal background of the actor is going to matter. it s going to be looked at in total. we were never after innocent citizens accidentally violating the law, because they forgot something. you know, we ve talked about kenosha all week, and people seem to forget that kenosha started with a federal felony, the straw purchase of that ar-15 by rittenhouse s 19-year-old friend. that s a federal crime. rittenhouse gave black the money to buy that gun because he could not buy it because federal law will not allow a gun dealer to sell a long gun to anyone who s under 18. rittenhouse was 17. so, he gave the money to his associate who was 19, lived in wisconsin, who went to a gun dealer and lied on the form that the gun was for him. it s a false statement. so, he was charged in state court, but it started with a felony. so, it started with a straw ....
Take quite a while to get sorted back out. yeah, that makes sense and i wasn t aware of the passengers on the ramp area. thank you for that information you re bringing to the conversation. john, jim cavanaugh mentioned the security of the cockpit doors now on airplanes. i seem to recall that was something that was put into effect in the wake of 9/11. but are they all impenetrable by a gun if a gun were able to get on board a plane, which, again, to jim s point, he s made this as a really positive story in that this was stopped. nobody has been injured. there s no employees or passengers that are at risk now. so that s the silver lining of this incident. but is there gun or bullets, weaponry, ammunition that could penetrate a cockpit door? the doors have been hardened in the wake of 9/11, and that s true on all airliners today. so, the they are designed to ....
Vigilantes on patrol at city x trying to show everybody they have a gun. they don t want you to know. we don t want anybody to know we have a gun. you re the last guy s going to know we have a gun. so we don t want anybody to know because if you know we have a gun, you re going to shoot us first. so we don t want that. so we try to operate very discreetly and also not going to be brandishing our guns or pulling our guns out if there s a fistfight. that s the training. so the flight crews take care of most everything. they re just absolutely fabulous, and in atf, we used to train the flight attendants from certain airlines on bomb recognition, you know, how to deal with explosive devices, bombs, what to do with them, how to get away from them, how to act. and just they re just smart, dedicated people, and they do a wonderful job and on a weekend like this, when america s in, you know, major travel mode, it s those flight crews and those ticket agents and those tsa agents that really a ....
That s why if you do get on the plane, the cockpit is sealed, and even if you got on with a gun, you can t breach the cockpit. so there has to be layers all through, and they do a fabulous job. the tsa, i mean, we could look at the numbers, how many guns they confiscate every year, people bringing them to the airport, usually by accident, and they, oh, i forgot my pistol and left it in my bag and of course they get the pistol confiscated, sometimes get arrested. you know, many years ago, i was on a secret service detail at nashville when jimmy carter was president and we had very tight secret service and atf cordoned around him and within a couple of hours of that event, john hinckley was arrested at the metropolitan national airport trying to go through the magnetometer and he had three pistols and he had come to the event at the hotel where jimmy carter was, probably was going to try to shoot him. but he got arrested at the magnetometer. ....
A gun out of a suitcase? yeah, well, right, alex, let me be an odds maker here, we re in a nation with 320 million guns, and you know, there s a lot of accidental discharges, because people aren t familiar with the manipulation of the firearm or how to handle the gun. and it s one thing if it s done on a range, you know, with the barrel pointed down range and you have an accidental discharge. it s not uncommon for shooters to have that happen. but when they re manipulating a gun or moving a gun, they sometimes shoot themselves, shoot themselves in the leg or the foot. those things can be very serious. and you know, to what you talked about, john, carrying guns. i carried guns on many, many, many flights, and one of the best protections, you know, is the flight crews. a lot of the pilots are trained with firearms, and all of the agents, like atf, fbi, secret service, we went through specialized training with tsa about, you know, carrying firearms on aircraft and all the security invol ....