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biden. >> one of the focuses that seems to have faded from the headlines is the threat of russia. intervening in our electoral process and system. trump recently said that ukraine, wouldn't say if ukraine should prevail over russia. given his affinity for putin and his outlook on the war do you expect, or should we expect russia to interfere on his behalf in 2024 if he's the nominee? >> yes, of course. vladimir putin does not want joe biden to be president of the united states for reasons that i hope the american people see, because he acts in our national interest. he would very much like donald trump to be president again because donald trump, for reasons i still can explain, a very fond of vladimir putin. so they were find ways to interfere. i hope our intelligence community is equipped to respond, maybe better than we did into thousand 16. but they will come for this election. >> so what should the media be telling the public about how to protect themselves or have to watch for that? what do you wish people were
joe biden. >> one of the focuses it seems to a faded from the headlines is the threat of russia intervening in our electoral process and system. trump recently said that ukraine would not see if ukraine would prevail over russia. given this affinity for uprooted and his own war do you expect or should we expect russia to interfere on his behalf in 2024? >> yes, of course. vladimir putin does not want joe biden to be president of the united states. for reasons that i hope the american people see. because he acts in our national interest. he would very much like donald trump to be president again. because donald trump is, for reasons i still can't explain, very fond of vladimir putin. and so they will find ways to interfere and i hope our intelligence community is equipped to respond maybe better than we did in 2016. but they will come for this election. >> what should the media be telling the public about how to protect themselves or how to watch for that?
in brazil and mr bolsonaro wouldn't have extended the hand of friendship. nevertheless, i think this tells us that there is a real affinity between mr lula and his venezuelan counterpart. what it says is that the relationship will remain strong, although he did call for venezuela to do more to rebuild the narrative about authoritarianism in the country. now that's being seen as controversial because it suggests that lula sees the narrative as somehow constructed, as somehow false, that authoritarianism isn't an issue in venezuela. and certainly critics of the maduro administration would say the reason it is criticised as being authoritarian is because there is no free or fair elections and that there is human rights violations taking place in venezuela. president lula also said he found it inexplicable that there would be 900 us economic sanctions on venezuela, simply,
from the country. our correspondent will grant has more. this was the first visit to brazil by venezuela's president maduro since 2016. president lula's predecessor, jair bolsonaro, wouldn't have entertained the idea of having the venezuelan leader in brazil and mr bolsonaro wouldn't have extended the hand of friendship. nevertheless, i think this tells us that there is a real affinity between mr lula and his venezuelan counterpart. what it says is that the relationship will remain strong, although he did call for venezuela to do more to rebuild the narrative about authoritarianism in the country. now that's being seen as controversial because it suggests that lula sees the narrative as somehow constructed, as somehow false, that authoritarianism isn't an issue in venezuela. and certainly critics of the maduro administration would say the reason it is criticised as being authoritarian is because there is no free or fair elections and that there is human rights violations
be a jail term of up to seven years, as this is a district court trial. to latin america, where venezuela's president has visited brazil for the first time since he was banned from the by the former right—wing president jair bolsonaro in 2019. nicolas maduro met left—wing president lula da silva in brasilia ahead of a summit of latin american leaders. more from will grant. this was the first visit to brazil by venezuela's president maduro since 2016. president lula's predecessor, jair bolsonaro, wouldn't have entertained the idea of having the venezuelan leader in brazil and mr bolsonaro wouldn't have extended the hand of friendship. nevertheless, i think this tells us that there is a real affinity between mr lula and his venezuelan counterpart. what it says is that the relationship will remain strong, although he did call for venezuela to do more to rebuild the narrative about authoritarianism in the country.
that this is one more instance as evidence to suggest that you knew our daughter was dead, and what you were doing is giving the indication to your son you would do anything for him notwithstanding that. however, the laundrie family says, no, not so fast. the letter is undatedle it was written simply as you noted, victor, which could be interpreted as a mother expressing her undying affection and affinity for her son before the trip even took place, that i love you, i support you, and no matter what you do in your life, i'm always with you. why do i say all that to you, victor? because it's important to understand not only how i interpret it, but how lawyers interpret it. the petito family saying you knew and the laundrie family saying they didn't know.
ron desantis was there, and i believe he voted for it. i'm not sure. if he didn't, shame on him because it was -- it was quite significant. it was a great bill to pass that we worked on, a bipartisan bill. it was great for america. >> alice, help us wrap the conversation. if you're in the desantis war room, you hear him. he says, i might even pardon trump. i'll think about pardoning january 6th offenders. so, he's trying to have affinity with the trump base. talk about the things they love most, even as he attacks their hero. how do you pull that off? >> it's a very, very delicate balance to do so, because in order to win this primary, you have to keep trump's base to the degree that you can, but broaden the electorate, and the wording that he's using is important, but i happen to think that they're much better off by focusing on what he has done as the governor of florida. he has a very successful economy. his handling of covid was very strong, and it's a state that has low crime, and if he can focus on what he has been able to accomplish in florida and
significant. it was a great bill to pass that we worked on, bipartisan bill. it was great for america. >> alice, help us wrap the conversation. if you're in the desantis war room, you hear him. he says, i might even pardon trump. i'll think about pardoning january 6th offenders. so, he's trying to have affinity with the trump base. talk about the things they love most, even as he attacks their hero. how do you pull that off? >> it's a very, very delicate balance to do so. in order to win this primary, you have to keep trump's base to the degree that you can, but broaden the electorate. and the wording that he's using is important. but i happen to think that they're much better off by focusing on what he has done as the governor of florida. very successful economy. his handling of covid was very strong. and it's a state that has low crime. and if he can focus on what he has been able to accomplish in florida and convey that to the primary voters, that's a winning
this is what you still need to do to be the front runner. >> -- i guess, one follow-up for you, asa hutchinson, former governor of arkansas who states his campaign came out and said we need to move on from trump. i'm your guy. but we don't hear much about asa. >> he is the most anti trump republican running for trump right now, it's not working for him. -- he has executive experience. definitely a red state. i don't even know. i saw volker's in arkansas, i don't know that that many conservatives in arkansas are on the a side train. if that's even a thing. we'll see what happens. >> congressman curbelo, to me this speaks to one of the biggest hurdles for republicans in this potential -- not potential, in this primary for president. is that with many base voters against the current tree, many people are going to turn out in the republican primary, a lot of them still have an affinity for the former president,
office in a place where they were visible and sometimes showed them to others. >> right. >> end quote. it's remarkable reporting. how key to the special counsel's investigation could that be? >> well, it's certainly important enough to them that they've asked multiple witnesses this question in grand jury interviews and interviews the fbi, and they learned from multiple people that he did do this. what his team had maintained, anderson, that it was a haphazard packing and storing process. the boxes were put in storage room. all of this was kind of much ado about nothing. and what witnesses have said is that's not true. there were certain documents that he had a particular affinity for that he would show visitors when they came, but he would keep in his office. >> is the implication of what you are reporting that trump employees moved the boxes out of storage when they knew they were going to be picked up or under subpoena, they removed out, that trump looked at them to see what he maybe wanted to keep, and