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The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer

recession. >> very worrisome indeed. thank you very much. let's bring in our cnn chief white house correspondent phil mattingly, cnn political analyst david gergen, and cnn political analyst maggie haberman. the white house has been very, very clear there will be in their words no negotiations. so what happens now? >> settle in to some degree. if you look at the two sides right now it's very clear there's going to be no near-term agreement. and to some degree that's part of the reason white house officials have been so unequivocal in laying down their red lines this early in the process. they know they have several months to work through that process, and that work is what i'm told is not going to be done publicly. much of it will be done behind the scenes as they try and navigate some type of pathway out of this. one thing that has been made clear to me repeatedly by white house officials is this isn't a negotiating tactic, because as

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The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer

raise the debt ceiling if we don't have a plan to cut spending or raise the budget. >> reporter: he said he's now trying to find a bipartisan deal. that may require senate gop leader mitch mcconnell who's engineered ways out of a debt crisis in the past. >> in the end i think the important thing to remember is that america must never default on its debt. it never has and never will. >> reporter: now, there's some expectation in the capital perhaps the senate could cut a deal and essentially jam the house, and there is a process in which they could actually force a vote on the house floor without the support of republican leadership. that would require 218 leaders to sign-on to that effort. of the 212 democrats at least six republicans. but the republicans that might sign-on to that effort tonight they're not ready to go that far. they're call on the white house to sit down and talk. and a congressman told me he wants good faith negotiations

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The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer

something you hear from senior white house officials here. they understand last week was a very uneven week, one in which they were repeatedly surprised by the disclosure of new documents discovered. however, there is a sense inside the white house and i think the president's trip to california underscores this, that they need to stick to the idea that things need to be business as usual. they need to keep working on the agenda they laid out and talking about the things they believe people care about. and what they don't think people care about generally is the classified documents issue. now, it is not minimizing the issue they currently face particularly now that a special counsel is investigating. but when the president says there's no there there that is what you hear from white house officials as they look through a process they know is uncertain, they know they can't control but feel confident will land in a place that to some degree vindicates them. >> maggie, what do you think? >> i think phil is right. look, there has been frustration both inside the white house and outside the white house among democratic allies of president biden that this has not gone

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The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer

house speaker kevin mccarthy calling on him to pressure santos to resign. mccarthy has long suggested santos will be treated like any other member of the house and should be aforded due process noting he's not been charged with any crime. santos will likely continue to face questions when lawmakers return to washington next week. >> eva, thank you very, very much. can't make this kind of stuff up. let's get some reaction from democratic congressman adam schiff of california. thanks for joining us. as the lies mount, it certainly looks like top house republicans still aren't budging on congressman santos. do you see any way to get him out of congress? >> well, you know, they're not going to be shamed into doing it because of course this is a party and a leadership still of donald trump who spread, you know, thousands and thousands of lies as president. so santos is very emblematic of that anti-truth trend within the gop. but because mccarthy is so

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