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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:36:00

campaign in 012 and they came out of the campaign and released a strategy for trying to win back the latino vote. how deep a hole are they digging for themselves if not the primary in the general election to have this kind of, well, you know, combative relationship in effect with a very powerful voting block. >> yeah, i mean, the combative relationship is something we've seen that crossed every single person, every single demograp c demographic, everything. he's taken everything on head on and, you know, his claims about winning the hispanic vote aside, i don't think anybody thinks that's very likely considering the rhetoric that he's engaged in. all that being said, his engagement tonight with jorge ramos, i think most people will take a look at that and say gosh, this journalist is what we hate about politics jumping in and cutting people off and i think trump handled it well. >> josh, you can listen there, i'm sure as well as our viewers are. it looks like donald trump is

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:35:00

as you watch that and just a reminder we're looking at live pictures where we're waiting for donald trump to come on stage any moment now but josh, when you see that reaction is that one, good for donald trump and good for the republican party? >> look, i think jorge ramos did donald trump a huge favor there. if he would have left when he was kicked out, the headline and everything would have been terrible for donald trump but the fact that he came back and attempted to ma notary public wi -- take the time of every reporter, everyone got a kick out of watching, he allowed him to get away with it. a net plus for donald trump. >> a net plus when one of the stat stat s static ticks, 75% of latinos have it and in the mitt romney

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:18:00

jorge ramos. >> sit down. sit down. go ahead. >> i have the right -- >> no, you don't. you haven't been called. >> i have the right to other questions. >> go back to univision. >> go ahead. go ahead. >> you cannot deport 11 million people. >> go ahead. >> you cannot -- >> sit down. please. you weren't called. >> go. >> that was security removing the univision anchor from the room. he came back later, did engage on the immigration interview. in fact, it turned into a long, almost interview on the immigration plan, citizen ship, as well, also, today, we have the news that trump hired rick perry's former top aid, now

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:23:00

hillary clinton on for an interview and there were no and the views, i read a lot of conservative comments at the time felt she was treated, you know, fed softballs. the contrast, believe me, conservatives are watching, that's the fox situation for whatever it is here that the conservative audience is watching and taking notes, if you will, and they were pretty upset. >> jeffrey, ben, and mercedes. i want you to stay there and i want to remind viewers we're waiting, a live picture from the location of this speech that donald trump is scheduled to give. he was scheduled at the bottom of the hour. we'll go there any moment now. he's just spoken to reporters and our sarah murray is in that event inside that room with the reporters. what was it like in the room there particularly during those conversations with the univision anchor jorge ramos. >> reporter: i was standing behind him when he was escorted

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:29:00

whatever else, that communicates the essence of donald trump. it communicates on his immigration policy. he felt the guy was out of control. he had him removed and then said well bring him back and he came back and they had an exchange, which was a fairly blunt exchange. that's fine. at the end he said we'll have lunch at some point. you'll see a lot of me. in essence, he brings everybody to his stage and they play on his court, if you will and these other candidates are finding themselves going in that direction. >> a little from donald trump saying we'll be speaking a lot over the coming years to jorge ramos. >> please stay there. we'll take a short break. i'll remind our viewers we're waiting for donald trump to come on stage any moment here on that live picture you're watching in iowa. we'll be right back after this break.

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:20:00

latino community, dismissing him, having him kicked out by security. he did come back in and engage but not the most polite engagement. what was that moment to you? >> this is exactly why people that like donald trump love him. ramos came in and was rude and stood up in front of everyone else. he wasn't called on and donald trump is not going to play games with people like that. i think ramos was obviously wanting to push an issue here and to make this be a theater l moment and the fact he let him come back in i think was smart politics from donald trump. he's not afraid to answer questions or talk to people, but you're not going to bully him, and it plays into this bigger narrative of trump, which is -- >> wait a second, ben. >> nobody is going to bully me. >> this is, donald trump's signature issue is the immigration plan. you have jorge ramos that says he's an immigrant himself. why is it bullying and an

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:22:00

actually, i thought jorge ramos looked like a fool. it will be interesting to see how the spanish language media spins this around tomorrow. i'll read and update you. >> i want to ask you, the other conflict here is between donald trump not in the latino population on immigration question but with fox news and you heard the candidate there certainly not backing down and in fact, doubling down saying he wants a reply, apology from megyn kelly. is this good for donald trump to battle with a conservative news channel? >> sure, the problem fox news has is the conservative news audience after that debate thought megyn kelly was unfair to donald trump. i was on radio talk show the next day in alabama and asked the host what's the audience's reaction there and they were furious. it was about a year ago fox had

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:33:00

acutally, it's the samsung galaxy s6 edge, with discreet edge notifications. breaking news and welcome back. you're looking at live pictures, donald trump in front of a full house in dubuque. feisty sessions and a debate with the univision anchor jorge rom m ramos. that room you're looking at there, some 3,000 people. i want to bring in josh holms, the former choef of staff to the senate majority leader. josh, good to have you on and i'm sure you were watching that exchange with jorge ramos trying to engage donald trump on the question of immigration and exporting 11 million

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:28:00

got a policy plan to lay it out and here is my three points and someone else beating you up, do you get in there with them and fight back? early on we saw candidates saying i'm not going to engage donald trump. he is on such a roll it's for survival and they better start fighting back and doing a better job because look, i'll give credit where credit is due. donald trump is one of the best trash talkers of politics and debate that i've ever seen out there. he has that genuine x factor and a lot of candidates never practiced or thought about using it in a campaign. they thought this was going to be a traditional presidential campaign. it is far from that and again, if you're donald trump and you can get conservatives to hate fox news, you got to be a little worried about the guy at this point. >> jeff, to that point, is this strategy trump against the world in effect? no one is off limits? >> yeah, you know, that whole episode with jorge ramos is

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20150825-23:21:00

unreasonable question for him to challenge the republican front runner on his plan to deport 11 million people. >> it's not unreasonable to ask a question but ramos has been to a lot of press conferences. you don't just get to stand up and ask a question when you want to and direct things when there is someone on stage. ramos knows this and donald trump see seiized on that momen >> i'm a reporter and i've been to place where is they shout questions. was that interaction damaging or a positive for donald trump? >> i think it was a positive for donald trump. i mean, jorge ramos knew better and knew -- >> agree. >> if he were to step out, he planned this and went out and -- it wasn't even questions. he was throwing out figures, if you can't deport these millions of people. he's incredibly passionate about this issue but at the end of the day, what happened here was that donald trump was not frazzled and didn't back down and

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